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Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:17 pm
by Ms Harmless
there are plenty of good PG-13 horrors imo

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:18 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:I much prefer a poetic mood piece than a gore fest when it comes to horror
Same

The Batman manages its genre-mashup with aplomb.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:18 pm
by The Argonaut
Ms Harmless wrote:one thing I love about Michael Giacchino's score is that it's totally lacking in obvious, generic, thuddy floor-tom "action drums" (a la Nolan's, yawn); it's nearly all subtle, quiet mood-pieces instead (with occasional classy trumpet stabs to bring the kapow); it brings the film much further towards Horror than Action (and alas, I see a lot of people wanting an action movie were disappointed with it in general)
I like the score, too. I've been listening to it a bit while doing work. Ave Maria works well enough in the movie but it's a little annoying when I'm just listening on Spotify in the semi-background

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:18 pm
by The Argonaut
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Wright was soooo fucking boring
I dare anyone to point to a single interesting Geoffrey Wright performance
Broken Flowers, boom

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:20 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Wright was soooo fucking boring
I dare anyone to point to a single interesting Geoffrey Wright performance
His Belize in Angels in America is outstanding. Just phenomenal.

But I like Jeffrey Wright. He's always good, I think.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:20 pm
by Jorge
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Wright was soooo fucking boring
I dare anyone to point to a single interesting Geoffrey Wright performance
Lenny is a huge fan, IIRC

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:34 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:35 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 5:36 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Wright was soooo fucking boring
I dare anyone to point to a single interesting Geoffrey Wright performance
His Belize in Angels in America is outstanding. Just phenomenal.
I would be interested in seeing this. After posting I realized I did kind of enjoy his Basquiat performance, so I'd be open to this as the characters are in the same ballpark.
You should check it out. Even if you don't like Wright in it, the whole cast fucking brings it. It's maybe the last time I gave a shit about a Pacino performance.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:00 pm
by BurtReynolds
Ms Harmless wrote:one thing I love about Michael Giacchino's score is that it's totally lacking in obvious, generic, thuddy floor-tom "action drums" (a la Nolan's, yawn); it's nearly all subtle, quiet mood-pieces instead (with occasional classy trumpet stabs to bring the kapow); it brings the film much further towards Horror than Action (and alas, I see a lot of people wanting an action movie were disappointed with it in general)
Didn't care for the score either. All I could think of was Imperial March.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:01 pm
by The Argonaut
BurtReynolds wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:one thing I love about Michael Giacchino's score is that it's totally lacking in obvious, generic, thuddy floor-tom "action drums" (a la Nolan's, yawn); it's nearly all subtle, quiet mood-pieces instead (with occasional classy trumpet stabs to bring the kapow); it brings the film much further towards Horror than Action (and alas, I see a lot of people wanting an action movie were disappointed with it in general)
Didn't care for the score either. All I could think of was Imperial March.
Yeah, I heard that every time, too, but I still liked it

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:02 pm
by epilogue
I keep thinking about the movie. I think I may have liked it even more than I realized at the time. Certain scenes, certain musical moments, certain images, just keep popping into my head and random times and leave me thinking about the movie as a whole again and again.

It also made me want to go back and revisit the comics -- some that I read a long, long time ago, but also those stories I missed that seem to really inform this movie. Like Hush, for example.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:04 pm
by tree_
Reminds me of something I've been thinking about; is everything derivative of something else because of our age? Or because it legitimately sucks? I'm beginning to think mass media consumption begins to wear us thin as we get old. What impresses you anymore? It's so hard to experience anything new, right?

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:04 pm
by Jorge
Colin Farrell was hilarious in this. His reaction when they showed him the reaction of one of Riddler's victims, lol

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:15 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:Reminds me of something I've been thinking about; is everything derivative of something else because of our age? Or because it legitimately sucks? I'm beginning to think mass media consumption begins to wear us thin as we get old. What impresses you anymore? It's so hard to experience anything new, right?
There is a ton to unpack here...

1. Most everything is derivative, yes. But derivate doesn't have to be a pejorative.
2. Derivative doesn't equal suck -- something can suck and still be fairly original; something can be derivative and really good.
3. Mass media consumption wearing me thin as I age has not been my experience.
4. However, age and experience are factors. The longer you live, the more you experience/see, the less original things seem. Because you learn/see/understand where more and more things come from. But this too can be separate from "impressed." Unless originality or novelty are the only things that impress you. I can be really impressed by a shot in a movie even as I know where I've seen something similar before, for example.
5. A lot impresses me so I may not be the audience for these questions.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:17 pm
by tree_
i was replying to burt's comment about it sounding like the imperial march.. i appreciate your thoughts on this though .. interesting read

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:18 pm
by epilogue
tree_ wrote:i was replying to burt's comment about it sounding like the imperial march
And I was replying to your reply to burt's comment about it sounding like the imperial march.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:19 pm
by tree_
oh i just wanted to clear up that i wasn't asking you directly.. glad we're on the same page and appreciate your thoughts

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:21 pm
by Jorge
tree_ wrote:Reminds me of something I've been thinking about; is everything derivative of something else because of our age? Or because it legitimately sucks? I'm beginning to think mass media consumption begins to wear us thin as we get old. What impresses you anymore? It's so hard to experience anything new, right?
There's something to this but I'm not there yet. Still constantly blown away by stuff I identify as artful and/or exciting (and, conversely, pissed off at stuff that I identify as stale, artless and boring).

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 6:25 pm
by tree_
Jorge wrote:
tree_ wrote:Reminds me of something I've been thinking about; is everything derivative of something else because of our age? Or because it legitimately sucks? I'm beginning to think mass media consumption begins to wear us thin as we get old. What impresses you anymore? It's so hard to experience anything new, right?
There's something to this but I'm not there yet. Still constantly blown away by stuff I identify as artful and/or exciting (and, conversely, pissed off at stuff that I identify as stale, artless and boring).
Yeah, what comes to mind for me is listening to Pearl Jam in my youth, and my dad saying it's crap. To me back then, it was so fresh and exciting, but now it's mostly crap.