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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:22 pm
by VinylGuy
Guys for those who saw it 10 times...

Is palps a clone from the original or he is the original guy? I thought he was the original but a lot of people are saying he was a clone.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:24 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:Guys for those who saw it 10 times...

Is palps a clone from the original or he is the original guy? I thought he was the original but a lot of people are saying he was a clone.
My take away is that he is the original.

But I could be swayed by any real evidence to the contrary.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:38 pm
by Anders
My vote is for clone. «I’ve been dead before». The dark side uses mysterious ways, like cloning.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:40 pm
by VinylGuy
but we dont know for sure right?

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:43 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:44 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:My vote is for clone. «I’ve been dead before». The dark side uses mysterious ways, like cloning.
I think that line is referencing Return of the Jedi. Could be wrong but that's how I took it.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:45 pm
by epilogue
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning
Yeah, there were a couple of Snokes in that vat. It also looked to me like the damage to his face/skull was different on each one, which I thought was interesting. But I may have seen that wrong.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:48 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning
Yeah, there were a couple of Snokes in that vat. It also looked to me like the damage to his face/skull was different on each one, which I thought was interesting. But I may have seen that wrong.
:thumbsup: I missed that there were multiples

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:49 pm
by epilogue
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning
Yeah, there were a couple of Snokes in that vat. It also looked to me like the damage to his face/skull was different on each one, which I thought was interesting. But I may have seen that wrong.
:thumbsup: I missed that there were multiples
I wasn't sure the first time I saw it but last night I definitely saw several of them in there. Not sure how many exactly but there are at least two visible heads.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 7:59 pm
by Strat
He was less a being and more a sith spirit. He said something like “they all live in me now” along with him sucking the force powers from the balance of force which was Ben and Rey ... that was probably the final piece for him to actually resurrect.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:00 pm
by Strat
So yes I do believe that palps did die in Jedi. But his dabbling in the dark side and eternal life ... whatever he did ... his evil spirit kind of lived on.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:02 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:He was less a being and more a sith spirit. He said something like “they all live in me now” along with him sucking the force powers from the balance of force which was Ben and Rey ... that was probably the final piece for him to actually resurrect.
I think this is right.

It's fascinating how in expanded canon we've seen Sith possess objects (like masks, for example). And here Palpatine, the most powerful Sith ever maybe, has not only figured out how to cheat death (something that he's wanted to master since we've know him) but also how to possess a PERSON instead of just an object.

That's so powerful and closes the circle on something introduced a long time ago. I love that.

I also love how Padme disrupts his plans in the PT and causes him to change course and Leia does the same in TROS. Super rad. Watching someone who is ten steps ahead adjust and improvise in the moment is really cool. It feels like a metaphor for all of Star Wars -- the jazz of it all.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:05 pm
by epilogue
Joseph Scrimshaw had a mini-thread on Twitter about Star Wars. It's a quick read and wonderful. But this is the piece that really stood out and resonated with me personally:

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:17 pm
by dimejinky99
That festival that only happens every 42 years

It’s 42 years since 1977

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:20 pm
by epilogue
dimejinky99 wrote:That festival that only happens every 42 years

It’s 42 years since 1977
It's also the answer to life, the universe, and everything.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:24 pm
by wease
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning
Yeah, there were a couple of Snokes in that vat. It also looked to me like the damage to his face/skull was different on each one, which I thought was interesting. But I may have seen that wrong.
:thumbsup: I missed that there were multiples
I wasn't sure the first time I saw it but last night I definitely saw several of them in there. Not sure how many exactly but there are at least two visible heads.
Baby Yoda clones.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:27 pm
by Ledbetterdays
dimejinky99 wrote:That’s from Reddit.


It’s total bull
You have no evidence, either way, I simply present it as an interesting possibility. It is from Reddit and Reddit had the entire movie shot for shot 2 months ago, so while not Entertainment Tonight, some people do have some credibility there.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:27 pm
by epilogue
wease wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning
Yeah, there were a couple of Snokes in that vat. It also looked to me like the damage to his face/skull was different on each one, which I thought was interesting. But I may have seen that wrong.
:thumbsup: I missed that there were multiples
I wasn't sure the first time I saw it but last night I definitely saw several of them in there. Not sure how many exactly but there are at least two visible heads.
Baby Yoda clones.
:shock:

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 8:38 pm
by wease
durdencommatyler wrote:
wease wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Wasnt snoke cut in half when we see him at the beginning? Maybe it was his remains and they are able to repair/bring back to life as appose to cloning
Yeah, there were a couple of Snokes in that vat. It also looked to me like the damage to his face/skull was different on each one, which I thought was interesting. But I may have seen that wrong.
:thumbsup: I missed that there were multiples
I wasn't sure the first time I saw it but last night I definitely saw several of them in there. Not sure how many exactly but there are at least two visible heads.
Baby Yoda clones.
:shock:
I can't take credit. Ruddo called it after the first or second Mandalorian episode. I thought it was a brilliant concept. Looks even more likely now knowing what we know.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 9:34 pm
by tree_


I don't know why or who would record an actual pitch meeting for this movie .. but this is very informative