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Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:28 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:29 pm
by dad
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
SatanicDmitrispearljam wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Ello Sailor wrote:Lol. Trag snark: denied.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:30 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:
Strat wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
SatanicDmitrispearljam wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Ello Sailor wrote:Lol. Trag snark: denied.
Wow all six of you got me, now I’ll have to love this album
:lol:

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:31 pm
by Birds in Hell
Birds in Hell wrote:React, Respond reminds me of Split Enz more than anything else.
Still hearing (and digging) the Enz vibes on the chorus of this one.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:32 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Birds in Hell wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:React, Respond reminds me of Split Enz more than anything else.
Still hearing (and digging) the Enz vibes on the chorus of this one.
I spun (the only) Slit Enz record i have today after reading your comment and I’m here to agree

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:35 pm
by dimejinky99
Birds in Hell wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:React, Respond reminds me of Split Enz more than anything else.
Still hearing (and digging) the Enz vibes on the chorus of this one.

No bad thing. No bad thing at all.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:40 pm
by Birds in Hell
How fun too that they’re playing your gear and Josh’s gear. Were there some specific items that wound up being used a lot?

A guy named Alexander Dumble made the amps. He was a very strange guy who unfortunately passed away in 2022. He made Stevie Ray Vaughan’s amps and countless others. He would refuse to build them for a lot of people but for whatever reason, he agreed to make four for me. They’re all ‘50s Fender mods: a Vibrolux, a Champ, a Deluxe and a High Powered Tweed Twin. Jeff played through a Fender Bassman.
Wotman has some deep pockets, those amps cost a fortune.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumble_Amplifiers
In 2012, Vintage Guitar magazine described the Dumble Overdrive Special as the most valuable in the product line, with used amplifiers fetching between $70,000 and $150,000. Other examples have sold for more.
Dumble died a few years ago now and only built three or four amps per year for people like Santana or whatever, so was young, 20-something Wotman dropping a few hundred K on amps before he was a hotshot producer? Fucking yikes. Lunacy when you could buy vintage Fender tweed amps for a fraction of that (or handmade replicas by Victoria, Lazy J, Clark etc. for a further fraction).

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:48 pm
by oneway23
Birds in Hell wrote:
How fun too that they’re playing your gear and Josh’s gear. Were there some specific items that wound up being used a lot?

A guy named Alexander Dumble made the amps. He was a very strange guy who unfortunately passed away in 2022. He made Stevie Ray Vaughan’s amps and countless others. He would refuse to build them for a lot of people but for whatever reason, he agreed to make four for me. They’re all ‘50s Fender mods: a Vibrolux, a Champ, a Deluxe and a High Powered Tweed Twin. Jeff played through a Fender Bassman.
Wotman has some deep pockets, those amps cost a fortune.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumble_Amplifiers
In 2012, Vintage Guitar magazine described the Dumble Overdrive Special as the most valuable in the product line, with used amplifiers fetching between $70,000 and $150,000. Other examples have sold for more.
Dumble died a few years ago now and only built three or four amps per year for people like Santana or whatever, so was young, 20-something Wotman dropping a few hundred K on amps before he was a hotshot producer? Fucking yikes. Lunacy when you could buy vintage Fender tweed amps for a fraction of that (or handmade replicas by Victoria, Lazy J, Clark etc. for a further fraction).
I said it earlier in the thread. No idea what his folks do/did for a living, but, brotherman was born and raised in Great Neck, Long Island, New York. Annual property taxes there could easily run you the cost of a new home elsewhere.

Then again, he was playing in California Breed with Glenn Hughes & Jason Bonham by 2013. They didn't stay together long, though, and I don't think they did much touring, so, I'm not sure how successful that ultimately was.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:50 pm
by Rangi Guy
My vinyl of this looks to still be sitting (somewhere) in the US, with 'Shipment ready for UPS' which has been there since the begining of the month. No way this thing gets here by the release date.

On a different note - the movie expereince thing is tonight and instead of going to that - I'm taking my kids to see a Madagascar stage show/musical

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:51 pm
by Birds in Hell
oneway23 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
How fun too that they’re playing your gear and Josh’s gear. Were there some specific items that wound up being used a lot?

A guy named Alexander Dumble made the amps. He was a very strange guy who unfortunately passed away in 2022. He made Stevie Ray Vaughan’s amps and countless others. He would refuse to build them for a lot of people but for whatever reason, he agreed to make four for me. They’re all ‘50s Fender mods: a Vibrolux, a Champ, a Deluxe and a High Powered Tweed Twin. Jeff played through a Fender Bassman.
Wotman has some deep pockets, those amps cost a fortune.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumble_Amplifiers
In 2012, Vintage Guitar magazine described the Dumble Overdrive Special as the most valuable in the product line, with used amplifiers fetching between $70,000 and $150,000. Other examples have sold for more.
Dumble died a few years ago now and only built three or four amps per year for people like Santana or whatever, so was young, 20-something Wotman dropping a few hundred K on amps before he was a hotshot producer? Fucking yikes. Lunacy when you could buy vintage Fender tweed amps for a fraction of that (or handmade replicas by Victoria, Lazy J, Clark etc. for a further fraction).
I said it earlier in the thread. No idea what his folks do/did for a living, but, brotherman was born and raised in Great Neck, Long Island, New York. Annual property taxes there could easily run you the cost of a new home elsewhere.
"But Dad, I need these amps - they're made by the same guy who made amps for Stevie Ray Vaughan! And he's completely insane!"


Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 9:58 pm
by oneway23
Birds in Hell wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
How fun too that they’re playing your gear and Josh’s gear. Were there some specific items that wound up being used a lot?

A guy named Alexander Dumble made the amps. He was a very strange guy who unfortunately passed away in 2022. He made Stevie Ray Vaughan’s amps and countless others. He would refuse to build them for a lot of people but for whatever reason, he agreed to make four for me. They’re all ‘50s Fender mods: a Vibrolux, a Champ, a Deluxe and a High Powered Tweed Twin. Jeff played through a Fender Bassman.
Wotman has some deep pockets, those amps cost a fortune.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumble_Amplifiers
In 2012, Vintage Guitar magazine described the Dumble Overdrive Special as the most valuable in the product line, with used amplifiers fetching between $70,000 and $150,000. Other examples have sold for more.
Dumble died a few years ago now and only built three or four amps per year for people like Santana or whatever, so was young, 20-something Wotman dropping a few hundred K on amps before he was a hotshot producer? Fucking yikes. Lunacy when you could buy vintage Fender tweed amps for a fraction of that (or handmade replicas by Victoria, Lazy J, Clark etc. for a further fraction).
I said it earlier in the thread. No idea what his folks do/did for a living, but, brotherman was born and raised in Great Neck, Long Island, New York. Annual property taxes there could easily run you the cost of a new home elsewhere.
"But Dad, I need these amps - they're made by the same guy who made amps for Stevie Ray Vaughan! And he's completely insane!"
:D

Pretty much...I mean, I don't begrudge the guy his well-earned success for a single second, but, it's essentially the equivalent of Tony Khan getting the money to start AEW from his Dad, and then going out and telling people that he's grinding, on his own, to build a small start-up from the ground up.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:00 pm
by Leatherhead
bluestate wrote:The origin of ‘Waiting for Stevie’ is almost too good to be true, in that you and Ed were literally waiting hours for him to show up at your studio to record his parts for a song on Earthling.

We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
This ain't bad.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:18 pm
by Hypnos
There are a bunch of cynics in this place.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:53 pm
by SatanicDmitrispearljam
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Is everything okay in your personal life? You come across as very irrationally angry about this album. I think a normal person would be like “ah, this ain’t for me, but you do you.” Yet you seem to have something to prove. It’s a little concerning. If you need to chat about whatever is truly bothering you, am always available to lend an ear. God bless man and be well.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:57 pm
by Birds in Hell
SatanicDmitrispearljam wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Is everything okay in your personal life? You come across as very irrationally angry about this album. I think a normal person would be like “ah, this ain’t for me, but you do you.” Yet you seem to have something to prove. It’s a little concerning. If you need to chat about whatever is truly bothering you, am always available to lend an ear. God bless man and be well.
Did you forget to log out of this account before making this post?

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:58 pm
by SatanicDmitrispearljam
Birds in Hell wrote:
SatanicDmitrispearljam wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Is everything okay in your personal life? You come across as very irrationally angry about this album. I think a normal person would be like “ah, this ain’t for me, but you do you.” Yet you seem to have something to prove. It’s a little concerning. If you need to chat about whatever is truly bothering you, am always available to lend an ear. God bless man and be well.
Did you forget to log out of this account before making this post?
Nope. Satan also cares.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 11:05 pm
by Clem Halibut
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Sounds like he's quite capable of using this equipment.

Caught the Earthlings tour and the guy can play.

Doubt Sir Paul, Sir Elton, Sir Mick, Sir Keith or Sir Eddie would work with him if he was the hack you make him out to be.

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 11:12 pm
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 11:15 pm
by Birds in Hell
SatanicDmitrispearljam wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
SatanicDmitrispearljam wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Is everything okay in your personal life? You come across as very irrationally angry about this album. I think a normal person would be like “ah, this ain’t for me, but you do you.” Yet you seem to have something to prove. It’s a little concerning. If you need to chat about whatever is truly bothering you, am always available to lend an ear. God bless man and be well.
Did you forget to log out of this account before making this post?
Nope. Satan also cares.
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