Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

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Rank Dark Matter

5 Stars
119
56%
4 Stars
65
31%
3 Stars
19
9%
2 Stars
2
1%
2 Star
1
0%
%#*! Andrew Watt
5
2%
 
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pearl jam sucks now
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tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Is everything okay in your personal life? You come across as very irrationally angry about this album. I think a normal person would be like “ah, this ain’t for me, but you do you.” Yet you seem to have something to prove. It’s a little concerning. If you need to chat about whatever is truly bothering you, am always available to lend an ear. God bless man and be well.
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Clem Halibut wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Sounds like he's quite capable of using this equipment.

Caught the Earthlings tour and the guy can play.

Doubt Sir Paul, Sir Elton, Sir Mick, Sir Keith or Sir Eddie would work with him if he was the hack you make him out to be.
“Spoiled rich kid” is probably the most favorable spin you can put on Wotman’s meteoric success.
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Vindicator wrote:The album is great and I want to note an note observation I made, and it's that a big improvement on this over Gigaton is Ed's use of single and 2 syllable words, vs the word salad 3-4 syllable words he was using on Gigaton (words like Dissertations, Conjecture, Despondency, and more)


Just look how powerful and singable the line from Waiting For Stevie is, " You can be loved, by every one, and not feel loved "

Again on Scared of Fear "we use to laugh, we used to sing, we used to dance, we used to believe "


Almost entirely single syllable words. So much better.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Clem Halibut wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Sounds like he's quite capable of using this equipment.

Caught the Earthlings tour and the guy can play.

Doubt Sir Paul, Sir Elton, Sir Mick, Sir Keith or Sir Eddie would work with him if he was the hack you make him out to be.
“Spoiled rich kid” is probably the most favorable spin you can put on Wotman’s meteoric success.
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I wonder if they filmed this album session? Would be cool to get a nice little documentary out of it
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Birds in Hell wrote:React, Respond reminds me of Split Enz more than anything else.
Still hearing (and digging) the Enz vibes on the chorus of this one.
Yes! Now that you say that I can completely hear it. Good shit.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Clem Halibut wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Shocked at the very notion that a spoiled rich kid might have some expensive toys he doesn’t actually know how to use
Sounds like he's quite capable of using this equipment.

Caught the Earthlings tour and the guy can play.

Doubt Sir Paul, Sir Elton, Sir Mick, Sir Keith or Sir Eddie would work with him if he was the hack you make him out to be.
Oh he can play the SHIT out of the guitar, I’ve seen him do it. That doesn’t mean he knows the first thing about production.
He's definitely had success as a producer. So I don't think your opinion is generally shared.

Maybe he's not your style and I get that.

I think it's more to do with the current norms of modern production than it is a lack of understanding or talent.

Sure, DM doesn't sound as warm and roomy as some of my favorite recordings ever...a little more compressed than I generally like ..but...it doesn't sound all that bad either.

Honestly, I'm quite happy with what he's done with both the Stones and PJ. Two bands that I feel are putting some surprisingly great music in this later stage of their careers.

By all accounts...Watt has played a large role in coaxing this out of both bands.

For that, I'm very happy to have him on board
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RockPusher wrote:This album has absolutely stolen my heart. On my 6th or 7th listen, I got it even more than before and I cried during WFS and Setting Sun.They really set the controls for the heart of the sun on this thing.
In fairness though, you are an accountant on tax lodgement day, so this is pretty standard.
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unLEASHed wrote:For all the raving reviews on Matt and Mike, I dont think any review did Ed justice…I mean, the guy gets praise on LB and Backspacer from the critics, and nobody gives a note on how much he soars on the album.
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I totally agree with this comment. Ed’s voice has changed for sure but he is still a great singer with very good range. And other than one part on React, Respond and maybe WFS, if I’m remembering correctly, he doesn’t seem to push his voice. His voice is right in a safe pocket. Imagine this was considered during the recording process- making sure they were in the best key for him. Can’t wait to hear these songs live, should be interesting. Hopefully the band rehearses a little.
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Higgs wrote:
RockPusher wrote:This album has absolutely stolen my heart. On my 6th or 7th listen, I got it even more than before and I cried during WFS and Setting Sun.They really set the controls for the heart of the sun on this thing.
In fairness though, you are an accountant on tax lodgement day, so this is pretty standard.
In all seriousness, getting emotional during times of high stress is pretty common, so you may not be wrong. But other people I know who love the band have been crying too, so that says something to me.
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its pretty jarring going from the bootleg to the 30 second clips


i am unable to make it to a screening so im looking forward to everyone’s reviews
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tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:This album has absolutely stolen my heart. On my 6th or 7th listen, I got it even more than before and I cried during WFS and Setting Sun. They really set the controls for the heart of the sun on this thing.
Just to clarify, you’re talking about the cell phone recordings?
I really respect your point of view Trag but your judgement of a song or album is rooted in your vast experience. Where a lot of us care about the emotion or the song and not how it was produced or recorded. Both are acceptable viewpoints of art.
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pearl jam sucks now
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Wherein I may have blamed Vedder for some problems on prior records, he and McCready really shine on this from what I can tell. That is a good thing.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
jdopj wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:This album has absolutely stolen my heart. On my 6th or 7th listen, I got it even more than before and I cried during WFS and Setting Sun. They really set the controls for the heart of the sun on this thing.
Just to clarify, you’re talking about the cell phone recordings?
I really respect your point of view Trag but your judgement of a song or album is rooted in your vast experience. Where a lot of us care about the emotion or the song and not how it was produced or recorded. Both are acceptable viewpoints of art.
I think a lot of fans’ attachment begins and ends with Eddie’s voice, and from that perspective I could see why one might LOVE this album.

It's the combination of his voice paired with soaring music. Sounds like this album has that in spades.
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People overly gushing atm, probably because it's the first semi decent thing they have donde since Avocado.
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Arthur Morgan wrote:
unLEASHed wrote:For all the raving reviews on Matt and Mike, I dont think any review did Ed justice…I mean, the guy gets praise on LB and Backspacer from the critics, and nobody gives a note on how much he soars on the album.
Loooonnnnngggg time lurker, but the new album inspired me to create an account and get in on the fun!

I totally agree with this comment. Ed’s voice has changed for sure but he is still a great singer with very good range. And other than one part on React, Respond and maybe WFS, if I’m remembering correctly, he doesn’t seem to push his voice. His voice is right in a safe pocket. Imagine this was considered during the recording process- making sure they were in the best key for him. Can’t wait to hear these songs live, should be interesting. Hopefully the band rehearses a little.
I dont think he is not pushing it, he is pushing his voice in alot of places, WFS, Dark Matter, Setting Sun (second part), most outros of the songs, he is belting some screams here and there.

My point was more the way he was pushing it, someone else talked about the monosyllabic lyrics making it easier, I agree, but also, hes pushing notes within his range, accepting the more raspier voice, instead of going “Got Some” on it (which for me is one of his worst vocals on an album.

He made great choices in this I think, but showing more power than in any of the 3 albums before.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
jdopj wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
RockPusher wrote:This album has absolutely stolen my heart. On my 6th or 7th listen, I got it even more than before and I cried during WFS and Setting Sun. They really set the controls for the heart of the sun on this thing.
Just to clarify, you’re talking about the cell phone recordings?
I really respect your point of view Trag but your judgement of a song or album is rooted in your vast experience. Where a lot of us care about the emotion or the song and not how it was produced or recorded. Both are acceptable viewpoints of art.
I think a lot of fans’ attachment begins and ends with Eddie’s voice, and from that perspective I could see why one might LOVE this album.

It's the combination of his voice paired with soaring music. Sounds like this album has that in spades.
I agree his voice is a big thing but I don’t enjoy his solo stuff nearly as much as PJ. There is just another level when they are together for me.
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brisk wrote:People overly gushing atm, probably because it's the first semi decent thing they have donde since Avocado.
It’s the best since Yield, I think. Still early.
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