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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 3:37 am
by BurtReynolds
woah mother fucker, my dog isn't that racist.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 3:39 am
by Simple Torture
BurtReynolds wrote:woah mother fucker, my dog isn't that racist.
All dogs are a little racist.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 3:40 am
by BurtReynolds
Simple Torture wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:woah mother fucker, my dog isn't that racist.
All dogs are a little racist.
He hates black dogs, but he's a little more tolerant of black people.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 3:46 am
by Simple Torture
Persistent fear as a parent: my daughter will smile and wave at a white person, then turn and cry when she sees a black person.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 6:36 am
by BurtReynolds
So now that the electoral college has cost democrats 2 elections in 5 (and several court appointments as well), do you still think its not a big deal?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 9:00 am
by ABNorman
As somebody from a majority vote country, the US and UK systems have always been a joke. You get the majority in a Province, you win provincial government, you get the majority in the country, you win national government. Simple.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 9:57 am
by Birds in Hell
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Protests taking place in NYC and SF and some other places.
Bring out the water cannons.

Geezes spenno
This made me perk up, but I imagined spenno might not be aware of the historical baggage this carries in the US, re: the Civil Rights Movement. Benefit of the doubt!
Uh, woah, maybe something got lost in translation here...

Look, protesters are generally an irritant at the best of times, however it's difficult to have any degree of indulgence for a bunch of morons protesting against the clear winner of a fair, democratic vote. There are people in the world who I'm sure would gladly protest for the right to free elections, etc.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 11:49 am
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote:You sure?



The sweet, sweet irony of this pleases me.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 12:05 pm
by dimejinky99
Birds in Hell wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Strat wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Protests taking place in NYC and SF and some other places.
Bring out the water cannons.

Geezes spenno
This made me perk up, but I imagined spenno might not be aware of the historical baggage this carries in the US, re: the Civil Rights Movement. Benefit of the doubt!
Uh, woah, maybe something got lost in translation here...

Look, protesters are generally an irritant at the best of times, however it's difficult to have any degree of indulgence for a bunch of morons protesting against the clear winner of a fair, democratic vote. There are people in the world who I'm sure would gladly protest for the right to free elections, etc.

Is the electoral college vote a fair democratic vote? Republicans have won their last two presidencies through the electoral college. So what the point of even having people vote?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 12:30 pm
by Bi_3
Simple Torture wrote:Persistent fear as a parent: my daughter will smile and wave at a white person, then turn and cry when she sees a black person.
Image

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 12:52 pm
by Simple Torture
You know what's going to be the most annoying thing if Trump creates a fascist state based on racial purity, the purging of undesirables, and power concentrated in the hands of one party nationwide? All of the "I told you so!" posts on social media. And the best thing will probably be the roads; fascist states always seem to have good roads.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 1:39 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
who here expected obama to be assassinated, or at least very public attempts on his life? and i don't just mean threats or uncovered plots, but a public situation in the gun was pulled or shots were fired

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 1:41 pm
by dimejinky99

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 1:46 pm
by ABNorman
dimejinky99 wrote:Aaron Sorkin has written a letter
We're saved!

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 1:46 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I've never felt my empathy and compassion be as tested as they are right now, because every instinct in me is telling me that all conservatives are fucking idiots and I don't want anything to do with them. Which makes me profoundly sad. I don't want to feel this way.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 1:54 pm
by Bi_3
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never felt my empathy and compassion be as tested as they are right now, because every instinct in me is telling me that all conservatives are fucking idiots and I don't want anything to do with them. Which makes me profoundly sad. I don't want to feel this way.
You don't have to. The tribalism that results from identity politics is toxic to our souls. Reject it and watch the world come alive again.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 1:58 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Bi_3 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never felt my empathy and compassion be as tested as they are right now, because every instinct in me is telling me that all conservatives are fucking idiots and I don't want anything to do with them. Which makes me profoundly sad. I don't want to feel this way.
You don't have to. The tribalism that results from identity politics is toxic to our souls. Reject it and watch the world come alive again.
I know, but the other tribe sure doesn't make it very easy. And it's hard to keep that human torch burning when so few others do.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 2:00 pm
by pepperwhiteMFC
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never felt my empathy and compassion be as tested as they are right now, because every instinct in me is telling me that all conservatives are fucking idiots and I don't want anything to do with them. Which makes me profoundly sad. I don't want to feel this way.
One of my most liberal feminist friends, yesterday, admitted that she feels like she ought to buy a gun now. Over the past year, I also watched a friend go from moderately conservative to full blown libby. So, LV, the moral of the story is this: things change, are always changing and nothing stands.

Also, Colorado has a very strong sense of it's own statehood, so you're in a good place - as Colorado is also changing. The moral of that story, is that our local issues are a lot more important than anything the orange skinned shit gibbon is doing in Washington.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 2:00 pm
by Fuzzy_Dunlop
Green Habit wrote:For the love of all that is good, Trump, don't put Christie as AG. That would severely harsh the mellow of one of the rare things many people found good about this election.
Even worse for us NJ folks who just started looking forward to legalization once he left the governors office in 2018.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... conom.html

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Thu November 10, 2016 2:43 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never felt my empathy and compassion be as tested as they are right now, because every instinct in me is telling me that all conservatives are fucking idiots and I don't want anything to do with them. Which makes me profoundly sad. I don't want to feel this way.
You don't have to. The tribalism that results from identity politics is toxic to our souls. Reject it and watch the world come alive again.
The world is already coming alive again. Russia, China, and Islamic State have all expressed excitement at the opportunities this will open up for them.