Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

[Strat]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

[Strat]

I was half expecting Ren to get killed here, so I was pleased to see him make it

Like I said at first I thought she cut his head off!

[LoathedVermin72]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

Because it's lazy and unimaginative and safe and boring. And also it's so blatant that it's funny. Easy to make fun of.

[southp]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

Could end in a conversion rather than a death.

[Strat]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

Because it's lazy and unimaginative and safe and boring. And also it's so blatant that it's funny. Easy to make fun of.

Its like making fun of a song with a 1/4/5 chord progression before hearing it because it is so "obvious"

[Strat]

AND YOU FUCKING RATED RIDICULOUS 6 IN YOUR TOP 5 MOVIES OF THE YEAR

[dimejinky99]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

Because it's lazy and unimaginative and safe and boring. And also it's so blatant that it's funny. Easy to make fun of.

And a car that turns into a robot that can talk is better somehow

[Sgt. Crackpot]

I fear that this movie will bring on the self destruction of LV.

[LoathedVermin72]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

Because it's lazy and unimaginative and safe and boring. And also it's so blatant that it's funny. Easy to make fun of.

Its like making fun of a song with a 1/4/5 chord progression before hearing it because it is so "obvious"

There's archetype and then there's laziness. They're not interchangeable.

[LoathedVermin72]

I fear that this movie will bring on the self destruction of LV.

Nah, it's not interesting enough.

[LoathedVermin72]

Don't worry, Ren won't die until the end of 9. And it will be at Rey's hands.

Of course. Is that a bad thing? Why does that bother you?

Because it's lazy and unimaginative and safe and boring. And also it's so blatant that it's funny. Easy to make fun of.

And a car that turns into a robot that can talk is better somehow

[dimejinky99]

Here's a thought.

We don't know that Luke hasn't gone renegade.
Maybe the reason he left was called s he felt the dark side calling him and he abandons Rey and his friends cos he feels it growing

[dimejinky99]

I mean we see him at the end but he doesn't welcome or embrace her. He seems hesitant to accept the blade

[LetMeSleep]

I fear that this movie will bring on the self destruction of LV.

What a cliche.

[LoathedVermin72]

Here's a thought.

We don't know that Luke hasn't gone renegade.
Maybe the reason he left was called s he felt the dark side calling him and he abandons Rey and his friends cos he feels it growing

Nah, that would be too risky. He is going to be Yoda.

[Strat]

I mean we see him at the end but he doesn't welcome or embrace her. He seems hesitant to accept the blade

I dont think it should be dissected too much. I think it was just a wonderful "come back next time to see what happens" scene. Luke, being one of the greatest jedi's ever, probably knows exactly what is going on and why she is there. She is obviously the daughter of Solo and im sure he feels it.

[dimejinky99]

I trust empire so this is automatically a great read
http://www.empireonline.com/movies/feat ... ull-story/

[LoathedVermin72]

That final "stare" really does feel lik it goes on for five minutes, though.

[dimejinky99]

One of the theories is that Rey and Ren are brother and sister and Ren hides her on jakku cos he knows the supreme leader is going to ask him to kill his family to prove his commitment to the dark side.

I don't buy that. She's Lukes daughter and she's hidden to protect her

[Strat]

One of the theories is that Rey and Ren are brother and sister and Ren hides her on jakku cos he knows the supreme leader is going to ask him to kill his family to prove his commitment to the dark side.

I don't buy that. She's Lukes daughter and she's hidden to protect her

I dont think Luke was banging anybody though. Also:

Abrams: If they were still making X-Wings, If they were still making TIE Fighters, If they were still making Stormtroopers, what would they do? how would they evolve? There were endless conversations about these things. There have been hundreds if not thousands of movies where the design has been influenced by Star Wars and yet could not be Star Wars. They couldn’t do something as badass as a TIE Fighter, couldn’t do something as undeniable as a Stormtrooper, because you couldn’t rip off Star Wars. But when you are doing something that takes place within that world, to not incorporate those things felt borderline criminal.


I love that. I agree and that is what Stip is saying too.