Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:The Faks were the best part of the season.

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:The Faks were the best part of the season.

Good god, man. They had me wanting to turn the TV off. Too much of them.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

VinylGuy wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:The Faks were the best part of the season.

Good god, man. They had me wanting to turn the TV off. Too much of them.

yeah they work alright on small dosis. And leave Cena out completely next time.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Chris_H_2 wrote:also, not every episode can have a 22-minute version of wilco's spiders while people nearly kill each other in a kitchen

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

tree_ wrote:agreed that this season was subpar for the course.. a little peeve: it felt weird to hear that lady cook who retired use the 'heard' lingo.. or is that supposed to be how all big time chefs talk? a lot of the dialogue felt "writerly" or like somebody else said sitcomesque, or like trying too hard to be melodramatic like grey's anatomy or something for some reason. i don't care what the fuck anyone says, this should not be considered a comedy by any stretch of the imaginarium. I was very excited for the season and ultimately let down. Jeremy Allenwrite is the best part of the show, other than jamies lee curts.

Ayo Edebiri is better than both of them. Which is not to say she’s more talented. But she’s the most compelling on screen for me.

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

tree_ wrote:agreed that this season was subpar for the course.. a little peeve: it felt weird to hear that lady cook who retired use the 'heard' lingo.. or is that supposed to be how all big time chefs talk? a lot of the dialogue felt "writerly" or like somebody else said sitcomesque, or like trying too hard to be melodramatic like grey's anatomy or something for some reason. i don't care what the fuck anyone says, this should not be considered a comedy by any stretch of the imaginarium. I was very excited for the season and ultimately let down. Jeremy Allenwrite is the best part of the show, other than jamies lee curts.

Ayo Edebiri is better than both of them. Which is not to say she’s more talented. But she’s the most compelling on screen for me.

Not to mention she directed the Tina episode.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Oh they definitely needed the character development. I just wish they didn’t lose sight of what’s drawing them to each other. They make the restaurant look like a near-total slog, which they are generally are not.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Oh they definitely needed the character development. I just wish they didn’t lose sight of what’s drawing them to each other. They make the restaurant look like a near-total slog, which they are generally are not.

I'm going to push back on this a bit. This season has several moments of the characters coming together and supporting each other in various ways. Every episode seemed to feature a moment like this (the staff attending the funeral, Tina and Marcus experimenting with new dishes together in the kitchen, breaking down boxes out back, etc.). The characters know they are part of something special and you can see that drive, determination, and camaraderie throughout the season. They just didn't always seem to be at the restaurant.

The slog was mostly around Carmy's issues that manifest in the kitchen, which will surely resolve in some way in season 4.

It also didn't seem to take place over a long period of time (maybe 1-2 months)? There's got to be a bit of a come down once the initial excitement of opening a new place wears off, right?