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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by IlluminEddie
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.

Yeh, means nothing from a band like Pearl Jam.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by Heathen
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
I totally hear the Ancient Aliens guy's voice when I read this post.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:15 pm
by gems and rhinestones
LikeLukin wrote:Does IlluminEddie like Sirens??
:haha:

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:15 pm
by Norah
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.
oh it means something
It certainly implies something.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:15 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:phew, made it
if you've read them only once I don't think you can really get these posts, you might have to start again
if RM doesn't hold my interest anymore I'm not sure it's worth the time. There's lots of other message boards I could be posting on.
deny all you want but if you're still here that means you're still a bit invested in this board
I still like reading the older posts.
still longing for that old, angry RM?
we've just gotten a bit too 80s. I mean McP was making a Yakov Smirnoff joke in the Lightning Bolt thread, for fucks sake.
On the internet
With an iPhone
Dickbag

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:16 pm
by 15showsandcounting
I give up. Listened again. Garbage.

This album is sounding worse than Backspacer. Way worse, sadly.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:16 pm
by gems and rhinestones
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.
oh it means something
I just wanted a reason to put "bro"

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:16 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
bodysnatcher wrote:glad to know i can now stop reading this thread until October 15th
NO YOU MUST STAY HERE AND LOVE BACKSPACER

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:17 pm
by IlluminEddie
Thejambi wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Thejambi wrote:[Backspacer had the shit promoted out of it with 2 radio "hits". Much , much, much more so than Riot Act. Doesn't not mean it ranks higher than RA except for success. .
IlluminEddie wrote: So, you're saying Riot Act didn't have any hits? I agree. That could be one reason it sucks.
Thejambi wrote:I am not a Riot Act fan . It is not a radio album. I like Backspacer better but I'd have to say the quality of the songs on RA are better.
First, we were discussing sales as a proxy for ranking albums. He thought it wasn't a good one and I asked to suggest better. I said a survey would probably best. There was no response to that, but then (as one can see above) it was implied that the only reason Backspacer had better sales was because of “hits”. I responded that yeh - RA didn’t have any hits. Then somehow the quality factor was brought into play, he claimed the quality was better on RA.

So, yes, I still say there was an implication within the entire context that radio hits are NOT synonymous with high quality. At the very least this was implied with Backspacer. So, to find out, I asked the question using another example with Adele (rolling in the deep example), which was ignored.

That's pretty much where we are.

I say - anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they played less on the radio is an idiot. And further anyone who thinks an album is higher quality because it has no radio hits is an idiot too.
I'll break it down:
Sales do not equate quality as you have suggested.
Backspacer sold more because it was promoted more and had radio success.
I think Riot Act is a more quality album in terms of musicianship.
I just happen to enjoy Backspacer more for the qualities that made it more radio friendly.
I don't always like more radio friendly attributes but in this case I do.
If I was asked to rank based on quality I would put RA ahead .
If I was asked which I enjoyed more to listen to it would be BS.

Is that better?

Honestly, it's fine. But, kinda seems like a cop out.

To like one better in terms of quality, but enjoy the other more.... just seems well, ummm... odd.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:17 pm
by AllNiteThing
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:17 pm
by Mine
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.
oh it means something
The single I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston sold more than 20 millions copies worldwide. This means is about 1.6 times as good as Ten (the whole album) who sold 13 millions. This means something.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:18 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.
oh it means something
It certainly implies something.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:19 pm
by IlluminEddie
You've all been punked. I actually think Riot Act's their highest quality album too.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:19 pm
by Norah
Guys, don't worry, he was just punking us!

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:19 pm
by BurtReynolds
/thread.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:20 pm
by broken iris
What would Andy Wood think of Sirens?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:20 pm
by Heathen
As long as he wasn't punkdaviding us, it's all fine

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:21 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
gems and rhinestones wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.
oh it means something
I just wanted a reason to put "bro"
it worked nicely :D

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:21 pm
by IlluminEddie
Backspacer sucks, bros.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:21 pm
by Norah
Heathen wrote:As long as he wasn't punkdaviding us, it's all fine
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