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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:45 pm
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mickey wrote:
4/5 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote: Reverse of Trump’s golden handjob, and his plan for increased taxes on those making over $400K (without waiting for the Senate to debate it)
How could he do that without the Senate?
No you don't understand, we're going to have bipartisanship, for reasons.
Look I’m sorry the US will not be turning into Denmark as you had hoped but be reasonable
Part of being reasonable is knowing who has the power to increase taxes.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:45 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:45 pm
by Orpheus
tragabigzanda wrote:I think life in denmark looks quite nice!
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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:45 pm
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:
4/5 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
4/5 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote: Reverse of Trump’s golden handjob, and his plan for increased taxes on those making over $400K (without waiting for the Senate to debate it)
How could he do that without the Senate?
I believe he could do it through EA, unless taxes can’t be changed that way?
Is EA an executive order? Either way, Congress has the power to tax, presidents do not. Any executive order attempting to raise taxes would be struck down.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Maybe after the midterms.
Seriously, did you hit your head???

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:46 pm
by tree_
macphisto, do you have any proof? or are you just blindly reiterating the desperate conspiracy farts of that foul piece of absolute shit?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:47 pm
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mickey wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Mickey wrote:
4/5 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote: Reverse of Trump’s golden handjob, and his plan for increased taxes on those making over $400K (without waiting for the Senate to debate it)
How could he do that without the Senate?
No you don't understand, we're going to have bipartisanship, for reasons.
Look I’m sorry the US will not be turning into Denmark as you had hoped but be reasonable
Part of being reasonable is knowing who has the power to increase taxes.
Or simply admitting when I’m wrong, thanking 4/5 for setting me straight, and promptly moving on
For how smart you are you’re kind of dumb sometimes. Even I knew that !

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:49 pm
by Mickey
To be a little fair to Trag, there are some paths a president could take (which both Trump and Obama reportedly considered) to change tax code through executive action. The arguments are that you can cut taxes by directing the treasury and IRS not to collect or enforce them (Trump floated doing this with the payroll tax) and you can increase taxes by directing them to eliminate certain loopholes (Obama floated doing this with certain corporate taxes, and Sanders had included this in some of his plans). But AFAIK it hasn't actually been done before, and it seems like it would mostly be nibbling around the edges rather than actual tax increases. More importantly, it's not clear to what extent it would hold up, especially if the opposition controls the Senate AND SCOTUS.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:50 pm
by macphisto
tree_ wrote:macphisto, do you have any proof? or are you just blindly reiterating the desperate conspiracy farts of that foul piece of absolute shit?
There's definitely some fuckery afoot.
VIDEO: Wagons, Suitcases, and Coolers Roll Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM

Poll watcher raises alarms over suspicious activity in Detroit during early morning.


A new video provided to Texas Scorecard from a poll watcher in Detroit shows wagons, suitcases, and coolers moving in and out of a vote-counting center during the early morning.

In a video taken by Kellye SoRelle—a Texas lawyer and member of Lawyers for Trump—a white van is seen parked in front of the location at 2:40 a.m. A box is taken out of the van and placed into a red wagon, which is then pulled inside the facility. SoRelle is raising alarms that the box may have been a ballot box that arrived long after all ballots were expected to have been received at the counting facility.
https://texasscorecard.com/federal/vide ... r-at-4-am/

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:51 pm
by knee tunes
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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:51 pm
by tree_
macphisto, take it to the qanon thread

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:52 pm
by B
macphisto wrote:
tree_ wrote:macphisto, do you have any proof? or are you just blindly reiterating the desperate conspiracy farts of that foul piece of absolute shit?
There's definitely some fuckery afoot.
VIDEO: Wagons, Suitcases, and Coolers Roll Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM

Poll watcher raises alarms over suspicious activity in Detroit during early morning.


A new video provided to Texas Scorecard from a poll watcher in Detroit shows wagons, suitcases, and coolers moving in and out of a vote-counting center during the early morning.

In a video taken by Kellye SoRelle—a Texas lawyer and member of Lawyers for Trump—a white van is seen parked in front of the location at 2:40 a.m. A box is taken out of the van and placed into a red wagon, which is then pulled inside the facility. SoRelle is raising alarms that the box may have been a ballot box that arrived long after all ballots were expected to have been received at the counting facility.
https://texasscorecard.com/federal/vide ... r-at-4-am/
What is the problem here?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:52 pm
by Mickey
Mac's pivot to being a full-on, pigeon-brained conspiracy wingnut happened faster than I could have predicted.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:55 pm
by JuanHamm
macphisto wrote:
JuanHamm wrote:
macphisto wrote:We should do 100% mail-in next time. What an overwhelming fucking success. No funny business at all. None.
A record number of dead people voted, so I'd say it was a success.
Fixed.
Did you?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:57 pm
by macphisto
JuanHamm wrote:
macphisto wrote:
JuanHamm wrote:
macphisto wrote:We should do 100% mail-in next time. What an overwhelming fucking success. No funny business at all. None.
A record number of dead people voted, so I'd say it was a success.
Fixed.
Did you?
I did. You're welcome.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:57 pm
by knee tunes
macphisto wrote:We should do 100% mail-in next time. What an overwhelming fucking success. No funny business at all. None.
Republicans banned MI Wi and PA from counting the early votes as they rolled in. Why? So that people could claim "funny business" when Trump lost

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:58 pm
by JuanHamm
B wrote:
macphisto wrote:
tree_ wrote:macphisto, do you have any proof? or are you just blindly reiterating the desperate conspiracy farts of that foul piece of absolute shit?
There's definitely some fuckery afoot.
VIDEO: Wagons, Suitcases, and Coolers Roll Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM

Poll watcher raises alarms over suspicious activity in Detroit during early morning.


A new video provided to Texas Scorecard from a poll watcher in Detroit shows wagons, suitcases, and coolers moving in and out of a vote-counting center during the early morning.

In a video taken by Kellye SoRelle—a Texas lawyer and member of Lawyers for Trump—a white van is seen parked in front of the location at 2:40 a.m. A box is taken out of the van and placed into a red wagon, which is then pulled inside the facility. SoRelle is raising alarms that the box may have been a ballot box that arrived long after all ballots were expected to have been received at the counting facility.
https://texasscorecard.com/federal/vide ... r-at-4-am/
What is the problem here?
Your brain just doesn't have enough holes in it to see the obvious connection between people moving items around and voter fraud.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:58 pm
by tree_
goddamn it it fucking blows my mind there are so many people like macphisto in this god forsaken country. macphisto, you are the problem, you fucking moron

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:59 pm
by 4/5
Mickey wrote:To be a little fair to Trag, there are some paths a president could take (which both Trump and Obama reportedly considered) to change tax code through executive action. The arguments are that you can cut taxes by directing the treasury and IRS not to collect or enforce them (Trump floated doing this with the payroll tax) and you can increase taxes by directing them to eliminate certain loopholes (Obama floated doing this with certain corporate taxes, and Sanders had included this in some of his plans). But AFAIK it hasn't actually been done before, and it seems like it would mostly be nibbling around the edges rather than actual tax increases. More importantly, it's not clear to what extent it would hold up, especially if the opposition controls the Senate AND SCOTUS.
This is why I originally asked the question. FDR even issued an executive order that attempted to essentially establish a 100% marginal tax rate by establishing a salary/wage cap of $25,000.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu November 05, 2020 2:59 pm
by spike
macphisto wrote:
tree_ wrote:macphisto, do you have any proof? or are you just blindly reiterating the desperate conspiracy farts of that foul piece of absolute shit?
There's definitely some fuckery afoot.
VIDEO: Wagons, Suitcases, and Coolers Roll Into Detroit Voting Center at 4 AM

Poll watcher raises alarms over suspicious activity in Detroit during early morning.


A new video provided to Texas Scorecard from a poll watcher in Detroit shows wagons, suitcases, and coolers moving in and out of a vote-counting center during the early morning.

In a video taken by Kellye SoRelle—a Texas lawyer and member of Lawyers for Trump—a white van is seen parked in front of the location at 2:40 a.m. A box is taken out of the van and placed into a red wagon, which is then pulled inside the facility. SoRelle is raising alarms that the box may have been a ballot box that arrived long after all ballots were expected to have been received at the counting facility.
https://texasscorecard.com/federal/vide ... r-at-4-am/
#RADIOFLYERGATE

is he going through the front door?