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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:44 am
by Simple Torture
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:America is built on systemic racism that we may never overcome. But this kind of media sensationalism only exacerbates things.

There's an element of truth to this to. Another albeit trivial local story a couple years ago. Some kids let the air out of the tires of all the school buses at the bus yard, and school had to be cancelled.

They put this story on the news. Within the following week, the same thing happened at another half dozen bus yards. Sometimes oversensationalizing things, or making them seem like they are widespread make others think they're going to get away with it.
Skitch, did you let the air out of your tires so you could spend time at home with your kids? :heartbeat:
This reminds me of another local news story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:46 am
by Strat
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:America is built on systemic racism that we may never overcome. But this kind of media sensationalism only exacerbates things.

There's an element of truth to this to. Another albeit trivial local story a couple years ago. Some kids let the air out of the tires of all the school buses at the bus yard, and school had to be cancelled.

They put this story on the news. Within the following week, the same thing happened at another half dozen bus yards. Sometimes oversensationalizing things, or making them seem like they are widespread make others think they're going to get away with it.
I can get on board with this. Columbine was really the first of its kind and completely all over the news. I remember my dad years later ruminating about this. Having it all over the news made others perk up and think this was something they could also do

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:46 am
by @SkitchP
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:America is built on systemic racism that we may never overcome. But this kind of media sensationalism only exacerbates things.

There's an element of truth to this to. Another albeit trivial local story a couple years ago. Some kids let the air out of the tires of all the school buses at the bus yard, and school had to be cancelled.

They put this story on the news. Within the following week, the same thing happened at another half dozen bus yards. Sometimes oversensationalizing things, or making them seem like they are widespread make others think they're going to get away with it.
Skitch, did you let the air out of your tires so you could spend time at home with your kids? :heartbeat:
This reminds me of another local news story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

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Close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:46 am
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Anyone care to poke holes in this?

http://jezebel.com/please-stop-saying-p ... 1788813761
Well, one interesting thing I saw is that in the very NYT exit poll they cited, Trump actually had big gains in the lowest two income brackets, while Clinton gained in the middle two brackets, especially that $100k-$200k wrong. I'm not really coming to a conclusion on their point but that citation seems to contradict the point they're trying to make.
In that case, I'd say "Good political journalism is dead" is a pretty solid conclusion.
Well, Jezebel is the InfoWars of third wave Feminism

Interestingly, according to GHs link, Trump had a slightly lower percentage of whites and higher percentage of all minority groups than Romney.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:47 am
by Bi_3
Guys, copycat hate crimes are still hate crimes

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:48 am
by Simple Torture
Anyone else getting lots of Russia Today promoted tweets in their Twitter feeds?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:48 am
by Simple Torture
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:America is built on systemic racism that we may never overcome. But this kind of media sensationalism only exacerbates things.

There's an element of truth to this to. Another albeit trivial local story a couple years ago. Some kids let the air out of the tires of all the school buses at the bus yard, and school had to be cancelled.

They put this story on the news. Within the following week, the same thing happened at another half dozen bus yards. Sometimes oversensationalizing things, or making them seem like they are widespread make others think they're going to get away with it.
Skitch, did you let the air out of your tires so you could spend time at home with your kids? :heartbeat:
This reminds me of another local news story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

?
Close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates
My link actually involves a car.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:49 am
by 96583UP
https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

people are going to need to channel their Gandhi and MLK to get through this

if they are words just let them be words

they are the wrong words

but people will have to be strong; and remain peaceful, and do the right thing because it is right; and not react with violence

this will pass

its is awful

it will test a new generation that hasn't faced this kind of adversity

and make them stronger afterward

if they respond peacefully and with dignity

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:49 am
by @SkitchP
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:America is built on systemic racism that we may never overcome. But this kind of media sensationalism only exacerbates things.

There's an element of truth to this to. Another albeit trivial local story a couple years ago. Some kids let the air out of the tires of all the school buses at the bus yard, and school had to be cancelled.

They put this story on the news. Within the following week, the same thing happened at another half dozen bus yards. Sometimes oversensationalizing things, or making them seem like they are widespread make others think they're going to get away with it.
Skitch, did you let the air out of your tires so you could spend time at home with your kids? :heartbeat:
This reminds me of another local news story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

?
Close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates
My link actually involves a car.
Mine involves 5 miniature hearses.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:50 am
by Norah
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:America is built on systemic racism that we may never overcome. But this kind of media sensationalism only exacerbates things.

There's an element of truth to this to. Another albeit trivial local story a couple years ago. Some kids let the air out of the tires of all the school buses at the bus yard, and school had to be cancelled.

They put this story on the news. Within the following week, the same thing happened at another half dozen bus yards. Sometimes oversensationalizing things, or making them seem like they are widespread make others think they're going to get away with it.
Skitch, did you let the air out of your tires so you could spend time at home with your kids? :heartbeat:
This reminds me of another local news story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith

?
Close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Yates
My link actually involves a car.
Mine involves 5 miniature hearses.
/hearsestream

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:51 am
by @SkitchP
lol

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 1:53 am
by LoathedVermin72
96583UP wrote:https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

people are going to need to channel their Gandhi and MLK to get through this

if they are words just let them be words

they are the wrong words

but people will have to be strong; and remain peaceful, and do the right thing because it is right; and not react with violence

this will pass

its is awful

it will test a new generation that hasn't faced this kind of adversity

and make them stronger afterward

if they respond peacefully and with dignity
This is actually a really interesting point. This may be the end of millennials as we know them. That brand of optimism is going to be crushed by this reality.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:00 am
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
96583UP wrote:https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

people are going to need to channel their Gandhi and MLK to get through this

if they are words just let them be words

they are the wrong words

but people will have to be strong; and remain peaceful, and do the right thing because it is right; and not react with violence

this will pass

its is awful

it will test a new generation that hasn't faced this kind of adversity

and make them stronger afterward

if they respond peacefully and with dignity
This is actually a really interesting point. This may be the end of millennials as we know them. That brand of optimism is going to be crushed by this reality.
I dunno, man. I hang out with a lot of millennials who are POC and they've been dealing with this sort of stuff since they've been able to walk. It may be a different degree, but certainly not the first time.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:01 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
LoathedVermin72 wrote:This may be the end of millennials as we know them. That brand of optimism is going to be crushed by this reality.
About fuckin' time! :lol:

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:05 am
by LoathedVermin72
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
96583UP wrote:https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

people are going to need to channel their Gandhi and MLK to get through this

if they are words just let them be words

they are the wrong words

but people will have to be strong; and remain peaceful, and do the right thing because it is right; and not react with violence

this will pass

its is awful

it will test a new generation that hasn't faced this kind of adversity

and make them stronger afterward

if they respond peacefully and with dignity
This is actually a really interesting point. This may be the end of millennials as we know them. That brand of optimism is going to be crushed by this reality.
I dunno, man. I hang out with a lot of millennials who are POC and they've been dealing with this sort of stuff since they've been able to walk. It may be a different degree, but certainly not the first time.
Yes, but Trump being elected is pretty much millennial 9/11

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:12 am
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
96583UP wrote:https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

people are going to need to channel their Gandhi and MLK to get through this

if they are words just let them be words

they are the wrong words

but people will have to be strong; and remain peaceful, and do the right thing because it is right; and not react with violence

this will pass

its is awful

it will test a new generation that hasn't faced this kind of adversity

and make them stronger afterward

if they respond peacefully and with dignity
This is actually a really interesting point. This may be the end of millennials as we know them. That brand of optimism is going to be crushed by this reality.
I dunno, man. I hang out with a lot of millennials who are POC and they've been dealing with this sort of stuff since they've been able to walk. It may be a different degree, but certainly not the first time.
Yes, but Trump being elected is pretty much millennial 9/11
That's a real interesting way to put it. Most of my students were between 3-4 when 9/11 happened, so they have no memory of it, but whenever it comes up in discussion, they get all somber, serious, and "patriotic." They cannot read 9/11 or stories about 9/11 critically, because the "real" stories they've been told overshadow it.

Also (semi-unrelated but about how students read history): every evil person in a work of literature is Hitler. Hitler Hitler Hitler. They've been told he's the most evil person who's ever lived, and so any story about being mean to others is a parable about Hitler. I read short stories with my students that were written during the Bush II administration that are about the injustice of the Iraq War, and invariably someone will say, "Oh, that's Hitler," and everybody nods.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:22 am
by digster
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Orpheus wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/us/post-e ... ears-trnd/

Vast majority of these are real and confirmed. Judge for yourself, seems like an epidemic to me.
There are like ten examples in that article and there are more than 320 million people living in this country. Like I said, I do not doubt incidents are occurring. That seems inevitable in the wake of a hatemonger like Trump being elected. But that article hardly constitutes an epidemic.
OK, here's another fifty incidents occurring in schools: https://www.the74million.org/article/ma ... d-bullying

There's my friend who relayed news that a friend of his had been told he should get deported. There's my colleague who in the midst of reporting on Election Day witnessed a group of teens taunting others with calls of "build that wall!" And those are the two I've heard in my own life in 48 hours.

I'm not saying it's an epidemic, I'm not really making any firm judgment, it's just a bit confusing (and I'm not accusing you of doing this) when someone wouldn't consider the possibility that maybe, just maybe, a candidate like Donald Trump has loosened the tongues of some people who feel a bit more emboldened to say some pretty ugly things. I'm not damning the Rust Belt by saying that.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:23 am
by doug rr
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
96583UP wrote:https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

people are going to need to channel their Gandhi and MLK to get through this

if they are words just let them be words

they are the wrong words

but people will have to be strong; and remain peaceful, and do the right thing because it is right; and not react with violence

this will pass

its is awful

it will test a new generation that hasn't faced this kind of adversity

and make them stronger afterward

if they respond peacefully and with dignity
This is actually a really interesting point. This may be the end of millennials as we know them. That brand of optimism is going to be crushed by this reality.
I dunno, man. I hang out with a lot of millennials who are POC and they've been dealing with this sort of stuff since they've been able to walk. It may be a different degree, but certainly not the first time.
Yes, but Trump being elected is pretty much millennial 9/11
wow

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:25 am
by verb_to_trust
I was downtown today. Didn't see any protesters.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Fri November 11, 2016 2:39 am
by McParadigm
verb_to_trust wrote:I was downtown today. Didn't see any protesters.
Thanks a lot, Obama.