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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i never bought anakin's dark side turn in the prequels
He's pretty much a trailer trash hick in those movies, rat tail and all
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:30 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
yes...thank you, team
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:31 pm
by stip
- Spoiler: show
- Kylo Ren's character is what Anakin should have been
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:32 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
Daniel Bryan wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i never bought anakin's dark side turn in the prequels
Yeah, it just came across as a moody teenager sulking and whining about everything.
Absolutely. He was a real twat. It's ridiculous that Obi Wan thought he was the chosen one. Maybe that was the era where Obi experimented with drugs?
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:32 pm
by dimejinky99
Where do you come from?
Classified?
Me too.
Big secret.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:32 pm
by LoathedVermin72
stip wrote:- Spoiler: show
- Kylo Ren's character is what Anakin should have been
Ehh, they're equally whiny and dumb, really
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:33 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
I like how Han saw through his crap immediately and started calling him Big Deal.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:34 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
I guess that's the point they're trying to push. That selfishness and anger are the path to the dark side.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:36 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:36 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I guess that's the point they're trying to push. That selfishness and anger are the path to the dark side.
Selfishness and anger don't have to be expressed solely through childish tantrums, though.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:37 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Hahaha oh man that's a good point
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:38 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
*edit*
Shit, non spoiler thread. Moved to the other one.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:40 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
From the other thread due to spoilers.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I guess that's the point they're trying to push. That selfishness and anger are the path to the dark side.
Selfishness and anger don't have to be expressed solely through childish tantrums, though.
True. Many of the other sith lords and characters don't seem to display those characteristics. Maybe it was more unique to Anakin, and they're demonstrating that Ben/Ren has inherited many of the characteristics from his grandfather.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:40 pm
by stip
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.
I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:42 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
stip wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.
I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.
How does someone be in charge of such a massive planet/weapon and huge army, and be so insecure? I'd imagine the confidence and power trip would be insane.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:42 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:I like all the political minutiae in the prequels. Way more interesting than anything in TFA.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
you have GOT to be kidding me.
I still haven't seen TFA, so I can't compare. But a lot of what I love about the OT (ANH especially) is the political stuff. To me that's just as much a part of the fabric of the thing as the space battles or even the Force mythology. The juxtaposition of practical military strategy/politics and the mythical Force is pretty compelling.
Lucas over did it a bit in the prequels. It was a tad convoluted but I liked that all that stuff was still there.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:43 pm
by McParadigm
stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.
Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing
I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:45 pm
by Strat
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:stip wrote:Sgt. Crackpot wrote:I'm not sure if I missed the reason, but why does Ren wear the mask? Vader had a reason, as it was keeping him alive. But Ren was able to remove it as often as he wanted.
I think it's fairly clear it's because he thinks its intimidating. The character is very insecure.
How does someone be in charge of such a massive planet/weapon and huge army, and be so insecure? I'd imagine the confidence and power trip would be insane.
He's not the only one in charge and you can feel the tension between him and hux.
Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:46 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Hux was an even bigger bitch he was.
Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
Posted: Sat December 19, 2015 5:47 pm
by Sgt. Crackpot
McParadigm wrote:stip wrote:McParadigm wrote:Jurassic World stank. And I spent 20 minutes of Avatar's second half in the hallway texting my wife because I was bored.
Pandora as a world was pure magic in its realization - and then they saddled it with a weak plot and weaker characters. But I was so swept away I didn't notice until the second viewing
I only remember forest and a few really silly looking creatures. Wasn't there an LED light tree? But if you were so swept away that you missed an entire movie's worth of weak plot the first time, maybe plot just isn't a major part of what you get out of a movie.
Isn't it the exact plot ripped from Pocahontas?