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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:25 am
by dimejinky99
Hold up there tonto.

Clone wars is back in just two short months.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:28 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:40 am
by E.H. Ruddock
dimejinky99 wrote:Hold up there tonto.

Clone wars is back in just two short months.
Yes!

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:41 am
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Hold up there tonto.

Clone wars is back in just two short months.
Yes!
:bammer:

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:52 am
by VinylGuy
dimejinky99 wrote:Hold up there tonto.

Clone wars is back in just two short months.
Never saw the cartoons nor i will.

This is it.

The end.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:57 am
by tragabigzanda
Star Wars sucks now

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:58 am
by VinylGuy
im not that interested. Maybe ill watch them, maybe not.

But its just not the same.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:27 pm
by spike
tragabigzanda wrote:
VinylGuy wrote: This is it.

The end.
I wonder if future installments will carry less weight now that we know what happens to the Jedi and Sith.
lol

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:31 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:
wease wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:But it does. Had they kept 3PO's memory wipe permanent, it would have been more impactful. He was sacrificed for the greater good. Instead it's "oh yeah, R2 has his memory, everything's ok"
The sacrifice is still the same in world, though. I'm talking about in-world stakes and sacrifices, not how we feel as an audience walking out later. The characters in that moment make a choice not knowing. That's powerful.
But they do know. One of them even makes the statement, “he backs up with R2 all the time.”
Right and 3PO immediately rejects that. It's clear that 3PO doesn't think R2 will be able to back him up.

For the record, I don't love all these choices. The 3PO one is the one that bugs me the most. There are a thousand work-arounds for that problem and JJ clearly went with the one that tugged at the audience. It feels slightly disingenuous. But the thing that helps it for me and the thing that I think matters most is that 3PO still does it without knowing that R2 has a solution.

It also allows R2 to have a "hero" moment with the narrative, which I appreciate as a die-hard R2 fan who is mostly pissed off and bummed out with the way this trilogy has used him -- specifically JJ.
If the C3-PO memory wipe was the only fakeouts/immediate reversal in the movie I could understand the choice, especially to give R2 a hero moment. Unfortunately it just comes off as lazy or cheap because it is one of many.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:08 pm
by B
I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:09 pm
by Monkey_Driven
B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.
That didn't help either.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:14 pm
by dimejinky99
Oh do shut up

3PO is no more than a multifunctional toaster

He’s an appliance. A tool. Not a person.
We’ve all had cars and bikes that have had weird quirks and eccentricities.
They weren’t people either.
Fuckin outrage about oh no we have to sacrifice the solar powered kettle in order to save all our lives

Ffs. You may actually all be missing the point being made in that story thread

Consider that

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:16 pm
by dimejinky99
Clutching pearls. About a droid. Seriously

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:17 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Dime...

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:18 pm
by epilogue
B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.
:lol:

Yeah, tough look. I can forgive Rey. She's the only one who seems to give a shit. If it wasn't such a longstanding SW tradition to dismiss the droids I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, as bothersome as it is, it does feel consistent to the world.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:19 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:
B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.
:lol:

Yeah, tough look. I can forgive Rey. She's the only one who seems to give a shit. If it wasn't such a longstanding SW tradition to dismiss the droids I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, as bothersome as it is, it does feel consistent to the world.
But Poe loves BB-8.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:19 pm
by Anders
I do think it’s a good point that it’s to save everyone/the resistance/the free people of the galaxy. It’s a no brainer.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:21 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.
:lol:

Yeah, tough look. I can forgive Rey. She's the only one who seems to give a shit. If it wasn't such a longstanding SW tradition to dismiss the droids I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, as bothersome as it is, it does feel consistent to the world.
But Poe loves BB-8.
It's not one or the other.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:24 pm
by Anders
Maybe it would have been better, if they were hurting a bit about it, and C3PO ended up dead/broken for good. It’s the last movie after all.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 5:35 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:Maybe it would have been better, if they were hurting a bit about it, and C3PO ended up dead/broken for good. It’s the last movie after all.
I mean, if there's no time to stop and mourn a character like Han then it's pretty silly to slow down to mourn 3PO. It's Star Wars.

What I think would have been cool is if R2 had restored his memory all the back to the beginning. It would have been great to see 3PO remember Padme, for example.

Kinda sucks that she wasn't mentioned at all during this.