Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Sun December 29, 2019 4:25 am
Hold up there tonto.
Clone wars is back in just two short months.
Clone wars is back in just two short months.

Yes!dimejinky99 wrote:Hold up there tonto.
Clone wars is back in just two short months.
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Yes!dimejinky99 wrote:Hold up there tonto.
Clone wars is back in just two short months.
Never saw the cartoons nor i will.dimejinky99 wrote:Hold up there tonto.
Clone wars is back in just two short months.
loltragabigzanda wrote:I wonder if future installments will carry less weight now that we know what happens to the Jedi and Sith.VinylGuy wrote: This is it.
The end.
If the C3-PO memory wipe was the only fakeouts/immediate reversal in the movie I could understand the choice, especially to give R2 a hero moment. Unfortunately it just comes off as lazy or cheap because it is one of many.durdencommatyler wrote:Right and 3PO immediately rejects that. It's clear that 3PO doesn't think R2 will be able to back him up.wease wrote:But they do know. One of them even makes the statement, “he backs up with R2 all the time.”durdencommatyler wrote:The sacrifice is still the same in world, though. I'm talking about in-world stakes and sacrifices, not how we feel as an audience walking out later. The characters in that moment make a choice not knowing. That's powerful.E.H. Ruddock wrote:But it does. Had they kept 3PO's memory wipe permanent, it would have been more impactful. He was sacrificed for the greater good. Instead it's "oh yeah, R2 has his memory, everything's ok"
For the record, I don't love all these choices. The 3PO one is the one that bugs me the most. There are a thousand work-arounds for that problem and JJ clearly went with the one that tugged at the audience. It feels slightly disingenuous. But the thing that helps it for me and the thing that I think matters most is that 3PO still does it without knowing that R2 has a solution.
It also allows R2 to have a "hero" moment with the narrative, which I appreciate as a die-hard R2 fan who is mostly pissed off and bummed out with the way this trilogy has used him -- specifically JJ.
That didn't help either.B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.
B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.
But Poe loves BB-8.durdencommatyler wrote:B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.![]()
Yeah, tough look. I can forgive Rey. She's the only one who seems to give a shit. If it wasn't such a longstanding SW tradition to dismiss the droids I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, as bothersome as it is, it does feel consistent to the world.
It's not one or the other.Monkey_Driven wrote:But Poe loves BB-8.durdencommatyler wrote:B wrote:I think the bigger sin is that Poe, Finn, and Rey don't give a shit about C3P0's sacrifice. That's much more damaging to the impact of his loss. I can life with them fixing it in the final moments of the movie.![]()
Yeah, tough look. I can forgive Rey. She's the only one who seems to give a shit. If it wasn't such a longstanding SW tradition to dismiss the droids I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, as bothersome as it is, it does feel consistent to the world.
I mean, if there's no time to stop and mourn a character like Han then it's pretty silly to slow down to mourn 3PO. It's Star Wars.Anders wrote:Maybe it would have been better, if they were hurting a bit about it, and C3PO ended up dead/broken for good. It’s the last movie after all.