stupidmop wrote:Homeless and whut do you wawnt are the best ones.
stip wrote:it's sort of amazing that this plus mother love bone somehow managed to equal pearl jam.
S/T(maybe just riot act) and earlier pj yes, but with current pj I can totally believe it.
You know, I have sometimes wondered about the possibility that maybe the kind of music they're playing now is consciously the music they revert to by default, i.e. the stuff they grew up with / created before Pearl Jam. I wonder whether their fall-back position is, among other things, that glam "fun" stuff. Which is disheartening, really. But it would have been interesting if the New-Wave which was Ed's music before PJ was truly captured in Backspacer (as they said it was supposed to be), production and all. It would've needed a really rough, naive production to really work, and unfortunately didn't get that.
Yeah there's a kinda goofy enthusiastic 80s quality in both, ia they should have ran with it all the way, or maybe that would have resulted in even more unintentional hilarity Idk.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 9:58 pm
by stupidmop
theplatypus wrote:Like, that is probably the worst song I'll hear all week. And my neighbor listens to 90s dance music.
It's ridiculous, but in a glorious 80s way. I like it like i do poison by alice cooper, or white wedding and rebel yell by billy idol or that word up song by who the fuck knows.
Basically
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 11:01 pm
by evenslow
how fucking tired of betterman must ed be by now?
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Mon November 11, 2013 11:46 pm
by Mine
evenslow wrote:how fucking tired of betterman must ed be by now?
the only reasons for the tags
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 2:47 pm
by McParadigm
evenslow wrote:how fucking tired of betterman must ed be by now?
Probably not as tired as Bruce Springsteen ought to be of singing Thunder Road, or Sting ought to be of not having written more good songs after leaving the Police.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 5:45 pm
by hlniv
McParadigm wrote:
evenslow wrote:how fucking tired of betterman must ed be by now?
Probably not as tired as Bruce Springsteen ought to be of singing Thunder Road, or Sting ought to be of not having written more good songs after leaving the Police.
Also probably not as tired as the other dudes from Bad Radio either. They must cringe every time they hear it knowing that it was their (sort of) song first and absolutely nobody knows it.
Don't think I've ever seen that video before, I'm surprised how little that song has changed in 25 years, even with two different bands playing the same tune.
And why the fuck did Stone and Jeff let Pearl Jam play and record an exact copy of this? I would have loved to hear those conversations in 1994.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 5:59 pm
by stupidmop
I'd wager ed told them how he wanted them to play it.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 6:10 pm
by Mine
stupidmop wrote:I'd wager ed told them how he wanted them to play it.
and their egos have been suffering ever since
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 7:04 pm
by stupidmop
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 7:44 pm
by McParadigm
I kind of got the impression that the early live performances were relatively undeveloped...they almost treated it like it was a cover or something. Then one of those got tagged on to that guitar-and-organ rendition and slapped on the record, and the song got stuck that way forever.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Tue November 12, 2013 8:28 pm
by WaitingForBluey
hlniv wrote:And why the fuck did Stone and Jeff let Pearl Jam play and record an exact copy of this? I would have loved to hear those conversations in 1994.
It was BoB's fault of course
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Wed November 13, 2013 11:59 pm
by jdopj
Strat wrote:Well, i dont care if he's drunk or not as that wasn't my main point.
I think he sounds terrible there but the whole period is romanticized in all our minds. We were kids and in love with a band but I think the shit they get mocked for her nowadays has been prominent throughout their career.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 1:56 am
by McParadigm
An imperfect but impassioned pre-vowel addiction vocal?
And it's low on goat warble?
AND I don't have to imagine him doing his old white man pow-wow dances or that Manners fist pump thing while hearing it?
Sorry, but sign me up for that.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 4:15 am
by Strat
McParadigm wrote:An imperfect but impassioned pre-vowel addiction vocal?
And it's low on goat warble?
AND I don't have to imagine him doing his old white man pow-wow dances or that Manners fist pump thing while hearing it?
Sorry, but sign me up for that.
Look, im not saying its better or worse, im just saying there are things int he performance that aren't too different than what he gets shit for today.
of course I love eds repulsive growl. Its from another planet.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 10:48 am
by Mine
I don't buy into the "impassioned" argument about the 90's. Just because it was overemphasised doesn't mean it was any more impassioned than it was later. It actually sounds faked most of the time to me. It's one of the arguments that is essentially "i like it therefore is objectively better/more sincere".
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 12:50 pm
by McParadigm
Mine wrote:Just because it was overemphasised doesn't mean it was any more impassioned than it was later.
Actually, what I said was:
A. Vowel addiction
B. Goat warble
It's one of the arguments that is essentially "i like it therefore is objectively better/more sincere".
This is one of the arguments that is essentially "I sum up your argument incorrectly and then feel like I've made a point."
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 3:23 pm
by Mine
McParadigm wrote:
Actually, what I said was:
A. Vowel addiction
B. Goat warble
yeas you did as opposite to the impassioned imperfection of the past though.
Re: Pearl Jam Videos
Posted: Thu November 14, 2013 3:41 pm
by McParadigm
Mine wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Actually, what I said was:
A. Vowel addiction
B. Goat warble
yeas you did as opposite to the impassioned imperfection of the past though.
