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Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:28 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:57 pm
by broken iris
Moline might be a lost cause at this point.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:59 pm
by Monkey_Driven
broken iris wrote:Moline might be a lost cause at this point.
How big is that arena? Sold out in 45 minutes?

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 4:12 pm
by delanoche
Monkey_Driven wrote:
broken iris wrote:Moline might be a lost cause at this point.
How big is that arena? Sold out in 45 minutes?
Thought I read it holds 9000? And it probably sold out quicker than that, considering it kept me in line til 10:25 when it finally said "no matches."

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 4:19 pm
by broken iris
I'm getting sold out now, which is more clear than "approximate wait time is.."

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 4:34 pm
by AndySlash
Monkey_Driven wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?
tix by mail was 4.50 on my order (moline). i don't remember it ever costing money to do that.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 4:37 pm
by 15showsandcounting
Had 10 people going after Moline. One got 4 in the 300's. What a mess.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 4:42 pm
by Monkey_Driven
AndySlash wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?
tix by mail was 4.50 on my order (moline). i don't remember it ever costing money to do that.
It has been like that the past few times I've ordered concert tickets. It makes no sense. Our utility bill also charges a $5.00 charge for online payments. It is madness!

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:21 pm
by matt reeder
delanoche wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
broken iris wrote:Moline might be a lost cause at this point.
How big is that arena? Sold out in 45 minutes?
Thought I read it holds 9000? And it probably sold out quicker than that, considering it kept me in line til 10:25 when it finally said "no matches."
It's tiny as far as arenas go. Pearl Jam have never played in the Quad Cities and aren't playing Chicago. It's not a surprise to me at all that it sold out really fast.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:42 pm
by CopperTom
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:for anyone interested, i sent an email to the ten club yesterday asking about the system they are using, here is the replay i got




Tickets (Tenclub)

May 29 10:46 PM

Names are drawn first for the option that has more entries. For Lincoln GA was filled first in this case. So when GA names were pulled there were less #1 entires than tickets available, so the system automatically starts pulling #2 and so on until all tickets are sold. We hope that helps explain.

-10c
Interesting. But I still think they fill GA first regardless. They sell unfilled 10C reserved seats through TM. They don't sell unfilled 10C GA through TM.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 5:43 pm
by CopperTom
matt reeder wrote:
delanoche wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
broken iris wrote:Moline might be a lost cause at this point.
How big is that arena? Sold out in 45 minutes?
Thought I read it holds 9000? And it probably sold out quicker than that, considering it kept me in line til 10:25 when it finally said "no matches."
It's tiny as far as arenas go. Pearl Jam have never played in the Quad Cities and aren't playing Chicago. It's not a surprise to me at all that it sold out really fast.
I would have guessed 10 minutes.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 6:23 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I bet that Moline show is going to be a real treat for those who got tickets.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:11 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
Monkey_Driven wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?
:thumbsup:

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:22 pm
by bodysnatcher
when did they start doing that? that used to be free (i haven't bought tix through TM in a while)

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:22 pm
by bond
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?
:thumbsup:
For Denver public sale, will call and mail delivery is $25.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:49 pm
by Monkey_Driven
bond wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?
:thumbsup:
For Denver public sale, will call and mail delivery is $25.
Oh my god.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:50 pm
by Birds in Hell
CopperTom wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:for anyone interested, i sent an email to the ten club yesterday asking about the system they are using, here is the replay i got




Tickets (Tenclub)

May 29 10:46 PM

Names are drawn first for the option that has more entries. For Lincoln GA was filled first in this case. So when GA names were pulled there were less #1 entires than tickets available, so the system automatically starts pulling #2 and so on until all tickets are sold. We hope that helps explain.

-10c
Interesting. But I still think they fill GA first regardless. They sell unfilled 10C reserved seats through TM. They don't sell unfilled 10C GA through TM.
Regardless of 10C's explanation, I have no doubt that the way I've described the drawing is how it works in practice.

Seriously: it's not guesswork and it's no conspiracy. It's not too difficult to determine how their system works if you look at what people entered for and what they ended up receiving, we went over it a great deal last year when the system was first introduced.

Unless they've changed the system this year, and I haven't seen any results yet that would suggest they have, I'm reasonably confident I'm right and 10C are not.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:16 pm
by emanon
Needed 4 for St. Louis. I used two browsers from work, my buddy did the same from home. My wait time jumped all over the place; his let him in pretty quick. He scored me 4 in section 114, while the best I could do was 311...so I went with his. Not great, but we'll get to take the kids to their first PJ show, and all sit together.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:40 pm
by bond
Monkey_Driven wrote:
bond wrote:
Fuck You Jobu wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculous print at home tickets have a $2.50 charge while tickets delivered standard mail are free?
:thumbsup:
For Denver public sale, will call and mail delivery is $25.
Oh my god.
I think I know why they do this. They have a thing called Flash Seats, which is free. Basically you bring your credit card/ID and they scan it at the door and the ticket prints as you go in, then you can't leave the venue and you have to enter the venue once scanned. I think it's an anti-scalping method. That way if you really want to scalp tickets, you have to pay $25 to get physical tickets (there's no print at home option). It makes sense for things like NBA/NHL games, but if you can make hundreds of dollars off concert tickets, that $25 only really serves to give the ticketing company extra money without really deterring anything.

Re: 2014 Tour Rumours

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 10:47 pm
by Lament
bond wrote:I think I know why they do this. They have a thing called Flash Seats, which is free. Basically you bring your credit card/ID and they scan it at the door and the ticket prints as you go in, then you can't leave the venue and you have to enter the venue once scanned. I think it's an anti-scalping method. That way if you really want to scalp tickets, you have to pay $25 to get physical tickets (there's no print at home option). It makes sense for things like NBA/NHL games, but if you can make hundreds of dollars off concert tickets, that $25 only really serves to give the ticketing company extra money without really deterring anything.

I think there's a fallacy in the idea that the venues/bands/TM/anyone besides fans at this point really thinks scalpers are a problem. Everybody set to make money off of a ticket being sold to a fan is still making the exact same amount of money off of a scalper buying them. It sucks, but it's also the truth. I (rather cynically, I'll admit) think that most things that are interpreted by us to be deterrents to scalping are in the end just ways to make more money. Don't a significant portion of tickets go directly to "official" secondary market sites before they even go on-sale to the public as it is?