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Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 2:55 pm
by harmless
WtOB? wrote:they're just words
It's just red dot.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 2:56 pm
by southp
PJ songs entitled Yellow Moon and Swallowed Whole both get me excited.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 2:57 pm
by WtOB?
harmless wrote:
WtOB? wrote:they're just words
It's just red dot.
i know pal :peace:

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 2:59 pm
by harmless
WtOB? wrote:
harmless wrote:
WtOB? wrote:they're just words
It's just red dot.
i know pal :peace:
:peace:

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:01 pm
by Jorge
stupidmop wrote::lol: I dont mind it in big wave because its mostly a silly song and if you try to sing it 'a' crustacean it fucks up the whole line.
On that last point: it's still kind of an interesting choice considering that Ed hasn't been above fucking up a line's meter to fit extra words. It's pretty crass how he does it.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:01 pm
by Lounge Lizard
southp wrote:PJ songs entitled Yellow Moon and Swallowed Whole both get me excited.
I fear Swallowed Whole might be another love song :twisted:

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:02 pm
by Heathen
Lounge Lizard wrote:
southp wrote:PJ songs entitled Yellow Moon and Swallowed Whole both get me excited.
I fear Swallowed Whole might be another love song :twisted:
Hopefully the video for that one features another glory hole.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:02 pm
by stupidmop
harmless wrote:I can imagine Ed just stuck 'something else' there as a placeholder while he wrote the lyrics, he just couldn't think of a better line so left it.
:lol: Sounds about right
harmless wrote: I think "...or we could do something else" sounds three times as serious, so three times as silly. I think in conversation, it would be delivered in a very lazy way: "or, well, we could... somethin' else." As if the speaker can't really think of the rest of the words, or is saying "...anything but this."
Yeah my problem is to me, the delivery doesn't match the idea that its lazy or tossed of. We've definitley had this conversation before btw :lol: So i'll stop.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:03 pm
by stupidmop
Heathen wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
southp wrote:PJ songs entitled Yellow Moon and Swallowed Whole both get me excited.
I fear Swallowed Whole might be another love song :twisted:
Hopefully the video for that one features another glory hole.
mcparadigms theory is looking better and better...

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:04 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:
stupidmop wrote::lol: I dont mind it in big wave because its mostly a silly song and if you try to sing it 'a' crustacean it fucks up the whole line.
On that last point: it's still kind of an interesting choice considering that Ed hasn't been above fucking up a line's meter to fit extra words. It's pretty crass how he does it.
Yeah. Ed, please stop 1) cramming too many words into a line and 2) using not enough of them to make sense. The English language kind of dictates the amount of words generally considered appropriate in any given sentence. (See what I did there? The "kind of" here is deliberately superfluous.)

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:05 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:
Heathen wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
southp wrote:PJ songs entitled Yellow Moon and Swallowed Whole both get me excited.
I fear Swallowed Whole might be another love song :twisted:
Hopefully the video for that one features another glory hole.
mcparadigms theory is looking better and better...
This album will be entirely full of cheesy love ditties, apart from MYM, which was written in a singular moment of rage.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:10 pm
by Lounge Lizard
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
Heathen wrote:
Lounge Lizard wrote:
southp wrote:PJ songs entitled Yellow Moon and Swallowed Whole both get me excited.
I fear Swallowed Whole might be another love song :twisted:
Hopefully the video for that one features another glory hole.
mcparadigms theory is looking better and better...
This album will be entirely full of cheesy love ditties, apart from MYM, which was written in a singular moment of rage.
... resulting from not getting enough head?

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:13 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
come on 1 o clock :D

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:15 pm
by pnjguy
I like the artwork, i really do, but it has no affect on if i think the music is any better than i thought before i saw the artwork.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:16 pm
by Lounge Lizard
pnjguy wrote:I like the artwork, i really do, but it has no affect on if i think the music is any better than i thought before i saw the artwork.
harmless wrote:The English language kind of dictates the amount of words generally considered appropriate in any given sentence.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:18 pm
by evenslow
pnjguy wrote:I like the artwork, i really do, but it has no affect on if i think the music is any better than i thought before i saw the artwork.
your ability to compartmentalize is astounding

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:18 pm
by harmless
pnjguy wrote:I like the artwork, i really do, but it has no affect on if i think the music is any better than i thought before i saw the artwork.
Unfortunately for me it does. I know, it's a tick I have. To me the album is the entire package, and that's a good part of why S/T and Backspacer didn't hang together for me.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:18 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
stupidmop wrote:I think they just thought it'd be a fun thing to do on the internet. Imagine no code out now, thered probably be some bizzare scavenger hunt thing.
harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:'Metaphysical' implies God, and that's not what he means.
No, it doesn't.
No?
it implies something beyond the physical. it doesnt have to be god although that is the easiest/obvious/relevant connection to makr
The video changed my view of that line - in the video it seems that he is pointing out the idiocy of people who engage in self-redemption and self-help i.e. attempt to fix their inside world (metaphysical), but do nothing about the outside world (physical). This changes the "Right around the corner could be bigger than ourselves" to being about this earth rather than the possibility of heaven. We could will it to happen and create a better world here (physical redemption) or we could something else - war, environmental collapse etc.


I basically agree. Slightly different interpretation of that last lyric ( we can put our faith in god-will it to the sky- which will do nothing but ensure collapse, or we could get to work
This is my interpretation, but I hate the line 'or we could something else' . It worked when I assumed it was sarcastic and tossed off. But I don't think that's what he was going for anymore. Idk why he didn't put the word 'do' in there, it could have fit.
There's no other explanation than sarcasm. He just doesn't deliver it sarcastically, which, I don't know, might be a case of double irony. That's how I've come to appreciate it; it's a dashed-off, resigned "or we could...", but he sings it with sincerity. Irony on top of irony.

As for dropping the word 'do', well, Ed drops words all the time; he's been doing that since he used to be crustacean.
So you think he's saying we could leave it up to god (will it to the sky) and we'll be fucked, or we could..uh...something else...i guess, not offering up any alternative? Cause i think hes saying or we could get up and actually do something ourselves as an alternative to leaving to a higher power. Which he realized after becoming 'self realized and metaphysically redeemed'. I dunno i dont really like that entire chorus. Damned catchy though.
I don't think you guys are disagreeing.
No, we're agreeing for sure. I just like it more I think (or maybe just tolerate it more).
I am presently in agreeance with Stip's reconfiguration of my prior parsing of said melodic statement.

The 'we could something else' reminds me of a David Foster Wallace German television interview where he discusses political antipathy. How it's so much easier and fun to just do nothing and satisfy our immediate interests. It's in here somewhere (I think) but I'm at work so can't verify:

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:21 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
stupidmop wrote::lol: I dont mind it in big wave because its mostly a silly song and if you try to sing it 'a' crustacean it fucks up the whole line.
On that last point: it's still kind of an interesting choice considering that Ed hasn't been above fucking up a line's meter to fit extra words. It's pretty crass how he does it.
Yeah. Ed, please stop 1) cramming too many words into a line and 2) using not enough of them to make sense. The English language kind of dictates the amount of words generally considered appropriate in any given sentence. (See what I did there? The "kind of" here is deliberately superfluous.)
the important thing is that if you add them all up together it is precisely the right amount of words.

Re: Lightning Bolt -- guess the tracks!

Posted: Wed August 28, 2013 3:23 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:
pnjguy wrote:I like the artwork, i really do, but it has no affect on if i think the music is any better than i thought before i saw the artwork.
Unfortunately for me it does. I know, it's a tick I have. To me the album is the entire package, and that's a good part of why S/T and Backspacer didn't hang together for me.
it adds to the total context in which you hear the music, in the same way that attaching a song to a particular experience changes the way you hear it, for better or worse.