Song of the Moment: Sirens
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Man, I haven't taroted in an age!
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Thejambi wrote:I'll break it down:IlluminEddie wrote:Thejambi wrote:[Backspacer had the shit promoted out of it with 2 radio "hits". Much , much, much more so than Riot Act. Doesn't not mean it ranks higher than RA except for success. .IlluminEddie wrote: So, you're saying Riot Act didn't have any hits? I agree. That could be one reason it sucks.First, we were discussing sales as a proxy for ranking albums. He thought it wasn't a good one and I asked to suggest better. I said a survey would probably best. There was no response to that, but then (as one can see above) it was implied that the only reason Backspacer had better sales was because of “hits”. I responded that yeh - RA didn’t have any hits. Then somehow the quality factor was brought into play, he claimed the quality was better on RA.Thejambi wrote:I am not a Riot Act fan . It is not a radio album. I like Backspacer better but I'd have to say the quality of the songs on RA are better.
So, yes, I still say there was an implication within the entire context that radio hits are NOT synonymous with high quality. At the very least this was implied with Backspacer. So, to find out, I asked the question using another example with Adele (rolling in the deep example), which was ignored.
That's pretty much where we are.
I say - anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they played less on the radio is an idiot. And further anyone who thinks an album is higher quality because it has no radio hits is an idiot too.
Sales do not equate quality as you have suggested.
Backspacer sold more because it was promoted more and had radio success.
I think Riot Act is a more quality album in terms of musicianship.
I just happen to enjoy Backspacer more for the qualities that made it more radio friendly.
I don't always like more radio friendly attributes but in this case I do.
If I was asked to rank based on quality I would put RA ahead .
If I was asked which I enjoyed more to listen to it would be BS.
Is that better?
You forgot Adele.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
The whole album sales thing is ignorant. I think anyone who thinks album sales is what makes an album good should be banned by Stip immediately. Or at the very least forced to listen to Po & the 4Fathers on repeat til Lightning Bolt comes out.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
News just in: IlluminEddie was just kidding about everything.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
All you people are crazy. Just swimmin' in it.
I give up on trying to keep up with this thread. Glad the song's out so I don't have to anymore.
I give up on trying to keep up with this thread. Glad the song's out so I don't have to anymore.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
i feel like i am happy i wasnt around during all that stuff
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
As did everyone else.AllNiteThing wrote:Thejambi wrote:I'll break it down:IlluminEddie wrote:Thejambi wrote:[Backspacer had the shit promoted out of it with 2 radio "hits". Much , much, much more so than Riot Act. Doesn't not mean it ranks higher than RA except for success. .IlluminEddie wrote: So, you're saying Riot Act didn't have any hits? I agree. That could be one reason it sucks.First, we were discussing sales as a proxy for ranking albums. He thought it wasn't a good one and I asked to suggest better. I said a survey would probably best. There was no response to that, but then (as one can see above) it was implied that the only reason Backspacer had better sales was because of “hits”. I responded that yeh - RA didn’t have any hits. Then somehow the quality factor was brought into play, he claimed the quality was better on RA.Thejambi wrote:I am not a Riot Act fan . It is not a radio album. I like Backspacer better but I'd have to say the quality of the songs on RA are better.
So, yes, I still say there was an implication within the entire context that radio hits are NOT synonymous with high quality. At the very least this was implied with Backspacer. So, to find out, I asked the question using another example with Adele (rolling in the deep example), which was ignored.
That's pretty much where we are.
I say - anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they played less on the radio is an idiot. And further anyone who thinks an album is higher quality because it has no radio hits is an idiot too.
Sales do not equate quality as you have suggested.
Backspacer sold more because it was promoted more and had radio success.
I think Riot Act is a more quality album in terms of musicianship.
I just happen to enjoy Backspacer more for the qualities that made it more radio friendly.
I don't always like more radio friendly attributes but in this case I do.
If I was asked to rank based on quality I would put RA ahead .
If I was asked which I enjoyed more to listen to it would be BS.
Is that better?
You forgot Adele.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Adele is phenomenal .
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One of my freelance gigs this summer was writing about tarot cards for some psychic website. I'd never taroted before, and writing about that shit made me realize why.durdencommatyler wrote:Man, I haven't taroted in an age!
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Hey chud, remember viper271 during the Backspacer days? Doesn't IlluminEddie remind you of him?
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So, it could be a trick, then?Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:i feel like i am happy
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
oh shi-E.H. Ruddock wrote:Hey chud, remember viper271 during the Backspacer days? Doesn't IlluminEddie remind you of him?
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
I don't think I like what you're implyingdimejinky99 wrote:Stip
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All signs point to yes.McParadigm wrote:So, it could be a trick, then?Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:i feel like i am happy
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
broken iris wrote:What would Adele think about Sirens?
It hasn't sold as much as Last Kiss, so it sucks.
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
Who cares I only want to know what would Molly Ringwald think of Sirens?broken iris wrote:What would Adele think about Sirens?
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What? Are you against fun or something?Lament wrote:One of my freelance gigs this summer was writing about tarot cards for some psychic website. I'd never taroted before, and writing about that shit made me realize why.durdencommatyler wrote:Man, I haven't taroted in an age!
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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens
gems and rhinestones wrote:Who cares I only want to know what would Molly Ringwald think of Sirens?broken iris wrote:What would Adele think about Sirens?

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