zeb wrote:I don't know if I'd use the word "muddy", trag.
I still haven't heard it anywhere other than my headphones or home stereo; neither are ideal, but they are both fairly well-rounded pieces of consumer junk. And it sounds muddy here -- too much cluttered instrumentation in the low end. Very boomy and "pfffffffffy." It might be my gear. I know I have near-perfect hearing (as of 2013)...
So all that said, is your disagreement with my term, or the characterization behind the term?
I would use a term more like "a beautiful blanket wrapped around a bittersweet memory."
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:06 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:07 am
by LoathedVermin72
I'm sorry zeb, I'll leave you alone now
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:16 am
by Norah
The distortion is a problem.
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:28 am
by zeb
tragabigzanda wrote:So all that said, is your disagreement with my term, or the characterization behind the term?
I can see where you are coming from, trag, but I feel like the album is sonically subdued rather than muddy. I'm certainly not sensing the clutter that you are.
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:32 am
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:43 am
by zeb
Yes, I wouldn't characterise the record (sonically or compositionally) as bright or energetic, so I think we agree on that.
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:49 am
by zeb
From a percussion standpoint, the things that normally provide that high end cut through - the snare drum and crash cymbals - are mostly absent from this record.
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:58 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:59 am
by LetMeSleep
tragabigzanda wrote:
zeb wrote:From a percussion standpoint, the things that normally provide that high end cut through - the snare drum and crash cymbals - are mostly missing from this record.
Yea, it's true. And I'm hearing too many instruments playing in lower registers, with a lot of air around them, and they're loud and laid out across the whole stereo spread. It's taking over the other sounds. And it fits the album's name -- I think this is the sound they were going for. My suspicion is that it this album sounds amazing in their mix room, but decidedly less so on consumer equipment.
Chud, what kind of distortion are you hearing?
Harmonic distortion in the audio? Speaker distortion in your car?
Digital clipping?
Are you suggesting there maybe some brickwalling happening with Chud's car?
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:05 am
by Norah
LetMeSleep wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
zeb wrote:From a percussion standpoint, the things that normally provide that high end cut through - the snare drum and crash cymbals - are mostly missing from this record.
Yea, it's true. And I'm hearing too many instruments playing in lower registers, with a lot of air around them, and they're loud and laid out across the whole stereo spread. It's taking over the other sounds. And it fits the album's name -- I think this is the sound they were going for. My suspicion is that it this album sounds amazing in their mix room, but decidedly less so on consumer equipment.
Chud, what kind of distortion are you hearing?
Harmonic distortion in the audio? Speaker distortion in your car?
Digital clipping?
Are you suggesting there maybe some brickwalling happening with Chud's car?
well done
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:05 am
by zeb
tragabigzanda wrote:My suspicion is that it this album sounds amazing in their mix room, but decidedly less so on consumer equipment.
Wouldn't you think that a band like Radiohead and a producer like Godrich would have a well-established process of testing those mixes outside of the mixing room though?
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:05 am
by Norah
tragabigzanda wrote:
zeb wrote:From a percussion standpoint, the things that normally provide that high end cut through - the snare drum and crash cymbals - are mostly missing from this record.
Yea, it's true. And I'm hearing too many instruments playing in lower registers, with a lot of air around them, and they're loud and laid out across the whole stereo spread. It's taking over the other sounds. And it fits the album's name -- I think this is the sound they were going for. My suspicion is that it this album sounds amazing in their mix room, but decidedly less so on consumer equipment.
Chud, what kind of distortion are you hearing?
Harmonic distortion in the audio?
Speaker distortion in your car?
Digital clipping?
the shit we talked about earlier
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:11 am
by ridleybradout
LetMeSleep wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
zeb wrote:From a percussion standpoint, the things that normally provide that high end cut through - the snare drum and crash cymbals - are mostly missing from this record.
Yea, it's true. And I'm hearing too many instruments playing in lower registers, with a lot of air around them, and they're loud and laid out across the whole stereo spread. It's taking over the other sounds. And it fits the album's name -- I think this is the sound they were going for. My suspicion is that it this album sounds amazing in their mix room, but decidedly less so on consumer equipment.
Chud, what kind of distortion are you hearing?
Harmonic distortion in the audio? Speaker distortion in your car?
Digital clipping?
Are you suggesting there maybe some brickwalling happening with Chud's car?
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:13 am
by LetMeSleep
zeb wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:My suspicion is that it this album sounds amazing in their mix room, but decidedly less so on consumer equipment.
Wouldn't you think that a band like Radiohead and a producer like Godrich would have a well-established process of testing those mixes outside of the mixing room though?
When I did mastering at Abbey Road (where Radiohead mastered before using Bob Ludwig), we went and sat in the engineers car to check the kick/bass levels as we were really pushing it. It was weird as people were taking photos of us.
So yes, of course they'd be checking it everywhere.
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:38 am
by tragabigzanda
Re: Radiohead | A Moon Shaped Pool
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 4:41 am
by zeb
A lot of these tracks definitely occupy the same sonic space but I think that was a conscious stylistic decision.
So Radiohead have been clearly planning for 20 years incase there was ever a referendum on leaving the EU and have embedded their message here. Great forward planning Thom.
