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When it comes down to it, armor didn't help the Lannister guards when all Syrio held was a wooden training sword.

stip wrote:john's not encased in plate, though. How much armor do those guys wear in the watch?

Boiled leather and mail, which should be enough to blunt the thrust of a slender bravo's sword. Now, that still leaves a lot of openings for Syrio (eyes, neck, armpits, etc.), but it gives Jon the ability to make a mistake and not necessarily die. Syrio doesn't have that luxury. Longclaw is also a bastard sword, which makes it much less cumbersome to wield than a traditional long sword. I think this would be a back and forth battle, with Jon getting poked full of holes in the process, but one that he ultimately wins. Unless Syrio actually is Jaqen H'ghar, in which case the faceless man gets it done. But since that's purely in the realm of speculation at this point, I think Jon wins.

this is becoming like the star wars thread for me

why is this one staying open so much longer than others? Seems a bit unfair.

Kaius wrote:When it comes down to it, armor didn't help the Lannister guards when all Syrio held was a wooden training sword.

Yeah, but those were also run-of-the-mill guardsmen, full of the hubris that comes along with facing an "unarmed" foe. The element of surprise was as great an asset as any in that skirmish.

Zantac Junkie is making some excellent points. I'm wavering.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:why is this one staying open so much longer than others? Seems a bit unfair.

I usually keep the close matches open a bit longer. Especially if there's active discussion. Hell, I voted for the current leader.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:why is this one staying open so much longer than others? Seems a bit unfair.

dog rr and mindyourtanners haven't voted

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:this is becoming like the star wars thread for me

Thank you, lenny.

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:why is this one staying open so much longer than others? Seems a bit unfair.

dog rr and mindyourtanners haven't voted

But we know Alecks won't be.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:why is this one staying open so much longer than others? Seems a bit unfair.

dog rr and mindyourtanners haven't voted

But we know Alecks won't be.

seems a bit unfair that two second accounts can vote but one can't

Syrio 8
Jon 6

I'm calling it at 11:00 CST. No exceptions.

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:why is this one staying open so much longer than others? Seems a bit unfair.

dog rr and mindyourtanners haven't voted

But we know Alecks won't be.

seems a bit unfair that two second accounts can vote but one can't

but they haven't so

Kaius wrote:Syrio 8
Jon 6

I'm calling it at 11:00 CST. No exceptions.

I change my vote to Jon

Spoiler: show

Zantac Junkie wrote:

stip wrote:john's not encased in plate, though. How much armor do those guys wear in the watch?

Boiled leather and mail, which should be enough to blunt the thrust of a slender bravo's sword. Now, that still leaves a lot of openings for Syrio (eyes, neck, armpits, etc.), but it gives Jon the ability to make a mistake and not necessarily die. Syrio doesn't have that luxury. Longclaw is also a bastard sword, which makes it much less cumbersome to wield than a traditional long sword. I think this would be a back and forth battle, with Jon getting poked full of holes in the process, but one that he ultimately wins. Unless Syrio actually is Jaqen H'ghar, in which case the faceless man gets it done. But since that's purely in the realm of speculation at this point, I think Jon wins.

Is that a common theory?


This thread is really making me want to go back and reread the books

who are the characters people think should have been included in this tournament that weren't?

i texted george rr martin and he said to submit his vote for jon

I hope Kaius isnt counting both my votes. My real vote is for Syrio.

stip wrote:

Zantac Junkie wrote:

stip wrote:john's not encased in plate, though. How much armor do those guys wear in the watch?

Boiled leather and mail, which should be enough to blunt the thrust of a slender bravo's sword. Now, that still leaves a lot of openings for Syrio (eyes, neck, armpits, etc.), but it gives Jon the ability to make a mistake and not necessarily die. Syrio doesn't have that luxury. Longclaw is also a bastard sword, which makes it much less cumbersome to wield than a traditional long sword. I think this would be a back and forth battle, with Jon getting poked full of holes in the process, but one that he ultimately wins. Unless Syrio actually is Jaqen H'ghar, in which case the faceless man gets it done. But since that's purely in the realm of speculation at this point, I think Jon wins.

Is that a common theory?


This thread is really making me want to go back and reread the books

I'd call it a speculation more than a theory. There's very little evidence to back it up. GRRM likes to drop hints to these types of twists, and the only thing we have for this is he's from Braavos and we don't know a lot about him.

is the Jon is a Targeryan/stark theory still dominant?