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Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 8:38 pm
by Ms Harmless
it's better though ;)

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:19 pm
by epilogue
A Penguin spin-off show (staring Colin Farell) for HBO Max is coming:

https://ew.com/tv/the-batman-penguin-se ... 000156d1fb
The Penguin's rise to power will indeed continue after The Batman.

Just five days after the superhero movie's big opening weekend, HBO Max has ordered a spin-off limited series starring Colin Farrell's Oswald Cobblepot. Tentatively titled The Penguin, the DC drama "expands upon the world" established by The Batman director Matt Reeves.

"The world that Matt Reeves created for The Batman is one that warrants a deeper gaze through the eyes of Oswald Cobblepot," Farrell said in a statement. "I couldn't be more excited about continuing this exploration of Oz as he rises through the darkened ranks to become the Penguin. Will be good to get him back on the streets of Gotham for a little madness and a little mayhem."

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:20 pm
by VinylGuy
im exited because he was so damn good and had so much fun with the character.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:21 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:im exited because he was so damn good and had so much fun with the character.
Totally.

He's really great in the film.

He and Kravitz are both standouts.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:22 pm
by Ms Harmless
hopefully these shows can do some heavy lifting so that The Batman 2 can start at a different place

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:23 pm
by JuanHamm
I haven't seen the movie, but the idea of a Penguin show starring Colin Farrell is definitely something I'd be interested in.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:26 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:im exited because he was so damn good and had so much fun with the character.
Totally.

He's really great in the film.

He and Kravitz are both standouts.
yeah, she was good. She nailed the tone of Selina in year one.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:32 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:
epilogue wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:im exited because he was so damn good and had so much fun with the character.
Totally.

He's really great in the film.

He and Kravitz are both standouts.
yeah, she was good. She nailed the tone of Selina in year one.
:heartbeat:

I wish the script had been more explicit with the sexuality stuff. But what Kravitz brought to the part was electric. I hope she gets her own spin-off show or film. I'd love to see Selina's adventures in Bludhaven. :heartbeat:

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:33 pm
by VinylGuy
i dont need the sexuality of Selina to be clear if its not a part of the plot or story. She was super sexy and dangerous. Thats the Catwoman i know.

I do want her to be more violent maybe in the next movie.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:35 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:i dont need the sexuality of Selina to be clear if its not a part of the plot or story. She was super sexy and dangerous. Thats the Catwoman i know.

I do want her to be more violent maybe in the next movie.
It very much IS a part of this story, though.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:36 pm
by VinylGuy
because of Annika? Im not sure what she did with her or not was important.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:37 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:because of Annika? Im not sure what she did with her or not was important.
It's not about "what they did" it's about their relationship.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:42 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:42 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:I haven't seen this movie yet. But I find it interesting that people are anxious for the movie to make some definitive statement on her sexuality. Why can't she just be fluid/"figuring it out"? Is there a specific plot point that is notably ambiguous or confusing because of this?
She can be fluid (that would be great since that's what Zoe kind of intended and what the character has been in the past). But the movie seems to go out of its way NOT to talk about that.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:47 pm
by Ms Harmless
VinylGuy wrote:i dont need the sexuality of Selina to be clear if its not a part of the plot or story. She was super sexy and dangerous. Thats the Catwoman i know.

I do want her to be more violent maybe in the next movie.
you mean you want to assume she's straight

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:50 pm
by Ms Harmless
nobody's sexuality needs to be part of "the plot" for it to be important to someone's character; if Catwoman isn't made canon bisexual, it doesn't mean she'll be without a sexuality; it just means that people will assume she's straight

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:53 pm
by VinylGuy
Ms Harmless wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:i dont need the sexuality of Selina to be clear if its not a part of the plot or story. She was super sexy and dangerous. Thats the Catwoman i know.

I do want her to be more violent maybe in the next movie.
you mean you want to assume she's straight
i didnt assume anything. She seemed to like batman and really cared for Annika too. She called her baby so maybe was a romantic partner too.

The important part for me was she cared enough for Annika to want revenge.

Was she having sex with her, in love, just friends? maybe yes ? who knows or care when the movie already makes the point that she was really important for her.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:53 pm
by VinylGuy
tragabigzanda wrote:I haven't seen this movie yet. But I find it interesting that people are anxious for the movie to make some definitive statement on her sexuality. Why can't she just be fluid/"figuring it out"? Is there a specific plot point that is notably ambiguous or confusing because of this?
I agree.

Re: Movie: The Batman (Battinson)

Posted: Wed March 09, 2022 9:54 pm
by Ms Harmless
I care, so do lots of others; I care because I'm not straight and I enjoy empathising with non-straight romantic characters