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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:08 pm
by vedder316
I can't wait for the EP in 6 months.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:08 pm
by EJ
harmless wrote:EJ wrote:harmless wrote:Weirdly, it's nice to hear that track is fairly long. If you're going to have The Best 80s Rock Ballad In the World Ever, it's got to be fully immersive or it's a non-starter.
Please don't let it have the same guitar tone as FON.
What the one on the intro or at the end? The horrible intro tone is unlikely, the final solo tone is not.
The beginning, definitely.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:15 pm
by harmless
EJ wrote:harmless wrote:EJ wrote:harmless wrote:Weirdly, it's nice to hear that track is fairly long. If you're going to have The Best 80s Rock Ballad In the World Ever, it's got to be fully immersive or it's a non-starter.
Please don't let it have the same guitar tone as FON.
What the one on the intro or at the end? The horrible intro tone is unlikely, the final solo tone is not.
The beginning, definitely.
Oh... well then I'm guessing you should be safe. It was pretty harsh and abrasive for anything that could be called a ballad. I hope.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:17 pm
by stupidmop
vedder316 wrote:I can't wait for the EP in 6 months.
Wellllllll BoB mentioned there were a few leftovers in that q&a i think....
I can't wait to hear pendulum and yellow moon.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:18 pm
by Monkey_Driven
I'm enjoying the idea of Jeff dominating this album.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:18 pm
by EJ
stupidmop wrote:vedder316 wrote:I can't wait for the EP in 6 months.
BoB mentioned there were a few leftovers in that q&a i think....
I can't wait to hear pendulum and yellow moon.
Yeah, they should stop mentioning how many songs they worked on. KurtLeon's the only one who can possibly undercover the ones that don't find a home on an album.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:18 pm
by warehouse
stip thanks for putting all the reviews in a separate thread!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:19 pm
by harmless
I'm pointlessly speculating that Jeff may have put his foot down and saved this album from becoming total bullshit.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:20 pm
by Strat
Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm enjoying the idea of Jeff dominating this album.
for sure. I am wondering why PJ feels the need to play it safe though. Why can't they take a major left turn?
OH, i know. Cause they release 1 album every 5 years!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:23 pm
by harmless
They took a major left turn at Backspacer. We just didn't like it.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:23 pm
by EJ
Strat wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:I'm enjoying the idea of Jeff dominating this album.
for sure. I am wondering why PJ feels the need to play it safe though. Why can't they take a major left turn?
OH, i know. Cause they release 1 album every 5 years!
Agreed. The perfect time to make a big turn would've been right after BS (less than 2 yrs).
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:24 pm
by Heathen
stip wrote:I went through the reviews we have so far (through alternative nation) and tried to track the general impressions of each song. Either positive, negative, or unsure (either because the reviewer only gave descriptions without any indication if they liked what they were hearing, or the listener wasn't sure themselves. Obviously this is all subject to the huge caveat that this is my interpretation of their remarks. Some of those unsure's may very well be negatives that the reviewer did not want to admit, although most of them reflect (iirc) just descriptions without commentary
Getaway:
Positive-IIIIIII
Negative-
Unsure-
My Father’s Son
Positive-IIIII
Negative-I
Unsure-I
Sirens
Positive-III
Negative-II
Unsure-II
Lightning Bolt
Positive-II
Negative-
Unsure-IIIII
Infallible
Positive-IIII
Negative-
Unsure-III
Pendulum
Positive-IIIIIII
Negative-
Unsure-
Swallowed Whole
Positive-III
Negative-I
Unsure-III
Let the Records Play
Positive-IIIII
Negative-
Unsure-I
Sleeping By Myself
Positive-
Negative-IIIII
Unsure-II
Yellow Moon
Positive-III
Negative-I
Unsure-III
Future Days
Positive-II
Negative-I
Unsure-IIII
everyone's a metacritic
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:25 pm
by harmless
I'm beginning to think that Stone's comments about this album alienating people 'like No Code did' might still be right. That will be good news for some, not good for others, as we've already seen.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:26 pm
by Strat
harmless wrote:I'm beginning to think that Stone's comments about this album alienating people 'like No Code did' might still be right. That will be good news for some, not good for others, as we've already seen.
I only worry about that because stone did not say that after the last recording session.....
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:27 pm
by Thenews15
I'm in terested in the AN review, how the reviewer says 50% of the record is the recorded he wanted them to release and the other 50% is the logical extension of BS...
I'm wondering if the 50% of the good stuff is from that first studio session where they were excited, especially Jeff. Then the logical extenstion of BS was from the last session that Jeff didn't seem that excited about? Wasn't there an article with something like that? Also, it seems Jeff wants this band to be more experimental, to push them to do things they haven't done, to try new things and Ed wants to do more upbeat poppy thing. At least that's the sense I get, how do you guys feel about that?
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:28 pm
by harmless
Strat wrote:harmless wrote:I'm beginning to think that Stone's comments about this album alienating people 'like No Code did' might still be right. That will be good news for some, not good for others, as we've already seen.
I only worry about that because stone did not say that after the last recording session.....
Possibly not, I'm not sure. Well then at least we have some of those tracks. Or all of them, I'm not sure.
Edit: oh, and also, that was the Backspacer II session I think, not the more wacky one.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:29 pm
by stupidmop
Baseless speculation: I feel like the only reason way they would have done a left turn record was in 90s when ed wanted to do shit just to be difficult. Now he cares less about that kinda thing and more about having a good time at the show man, it aint gonna happen.
Unless they pull their finger out their asses and either release another album quickly, or some FUCKIN EP'S.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:32 pm
by sward
Thenews15 wrote:I'm in terested in the AN review, how the reviewer says 50% of the record is the recorded he wanted them to release and the other 50% is the logical extension of BS...
I'm wondering if the 50% of the good stuff is from that first studio session where they were excited, especially Jeff. Then the logical extenstion of BS was from the last session that Jeff didn't seem that excited about? Wasn't there an article with something like that? Also, it seems Jeff wants this band to be more experimental, to push them to do things they haven't done, to try new things and Ed wants to do more upbeat poppy thing. At least that's the sense I get, how do you guys feel about that?
Im of the impression that its Stone who welcomes the poppy side of the band more than the others and especially Ed and Jeff. But..the only thing we DO know is.....Who the fuck really knows!
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:35 pm
by McParadigm
sward wrote:Im of the impression that its Stone who welcomes the poppy side of the band more than the others and especially Ed and Jeff. But..the only thing we DO know is.....Who the fuck really knows!
The way Ed approaches vocal melodies and 'fixes,' I think he underwent a real change of intent sometime in the last 10 years.
Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15
Posted: Thu September 05, 2013 2:35 pm
by harmless
sward wrote:Thenews15 wrote:I'm in terested in the AN review, how the reviewer says 50% of the record is the recorded he wanted them to release and the other 50% is the logical extension of BS...
I'm wondering if the 50% of the good stuff is from that first studio session where they were excited, especially Jeff. Then the logical extenstion of BS was from the last session that Jeff didn't seem that excited about? Wasn't there an article with something like that? Also, it seems Jeff wants this band to be more experimental, to push them to do things they haven't done, to try new things and Ed wants to do more upbeat poppy thing. At least that's the sense I get, how do you guys feel about that?
Im of the impression that its Stone who welcomes the poppy side of the band more than the others and especially Ed and Jeff. But..the only thing we DO know is.....Who the fuck really knows!
It looks to me like Stone is fine with the pop stuff, but so is Ed... I can't see any indication of Ed wanting to be more experimental. I can see him 'finishing' other people's songs to make them into pop songs. I think Jeff is the one with the passion and creativity, at this moment in time. Mike just wants to rock out, man.