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Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 1:54 am
by Jorge
Zeb I love you with all my heart but you are objectively wrong here

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 1:57 am
by chewm
Even if there was such thing, LCD Soundsystem still wouldn't be "objectively outsanding".

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:02 am
by zeb
You guys are really wrecking my lunch break vibes here.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:02 am
by Jorge
Oh, to be clear, I am a big fan of LCD Soundsystem. I think they're brilliant.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:02 am
by Kaius
I like the objective of this subject.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:03 am
by zeb
theplatypus wrote:Zeb I love you with all my heart but you are objectively wrong here
This is such a bittersweet message, plat. I'll be thinking about this all day.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:05 am
by BurtReynolds
I don't care how good they are, after watching that annoying documentary, I hate them too.

Objectively.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:28 am
by chewm
I was mostly kidding, I've barely listened to LCD Soundsystem and I've actually enjoyed it.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:46 am
by LoathedVermin72
Good "songcraft" and "performance" are both subjective terms. All I have to do is say I disagree with you and, boom, it is not objective. Art can't be quantified with any kind of scientific formula. Its merits can be argued, but ultimately, that is all.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:48 am
by Kaius
Right, but, "Hey Ya!".

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:51 am
by Birds in Hell
That song is awful, Kaius.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 2:51 am
by Kaius
You're nuts.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:01 am
by zeb
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Art can't be quantified
Art auctions say otherwise.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:02 am
by LoathedVermin72
zeb wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Art can't be quantified
Art auctions say otherwise.
I assume this is a joke, yes?

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:05 am
by chewm
Birds in Hell wrote:That song is awful, Kaius.
Objectively?

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:08 am
by zeb
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
zeb wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Art can't be quantified
Art auctions say otherwise.
I assume this is a joke, yes?
I assume that you understand that paying a price for a piece of artwork consequently bestows an objective value upon it.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:14 am
by LoathedVermin72
zeb wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
zeb wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Art can't be quantified
Art auctions say otherwise.
I assume this is a joke, yes?
I assume that you understand that paying a price for a piece of artwork consequently bestows an objective value upon it.
Is this really the argument you wanna go with? The amount of money a work of art generates quantifies its quality? You really don't foresee any problems with this line of thinking?

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:27 am
by Birds in Hell
I can accept an argument that there's some kind of objectivity in measuring musicianship and songcraft, demos by local bands that are really obviously not good in either of these respects come to mind, but once you clear that threshold I think you're on much shakier ground. What's "good" about a song like Corduroy is that the sum of its parts hits my ears/brain in a pleasurable way. Why some songs affect me in that way and others don't isn't something I can even begin to define but I think it's deeply subjective.

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:30 am
by zeb
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The amount of money a work of art generates quantifies its quality?
*objective value

Re: Unpopular Music Opinions

Posted: Tue April 12, 2016 3:34 am
by LoathedVermin72
zeb wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The amount of money a work of art generates quantifies its quality?
*objective value
Since when were we talking about objective monetary value?