Red Mosquito

Thank U 4 the wake-up call, Rach!

Strat wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

macphisto wrote:Like say someone you live with had symptoms and then tested positive, would that do it?

No

Why get tested if you show no symptoms. That's just requires you going out in the community when you should be self isolating.

Because you can have the virus without showing symptoms?

That's why you self-isolate for 14 days if you have known close contact with someone who has Covid. Having symptoms is not what should make you think about self-isolating, it is the close contact that should make you self-isolate.

surfndestroy wrote:

Strat wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

macphisto wrote:Like say someone you live with had symptoms and then tested positive, would that do it?

No

Why get tested if you show no symptoms. That's just requires you going out in the community when you should be self isolating.

Because you can have the virus without showing symptoms?

That's why you self-isolate for 14 days if you have known close contact with someone who has Covid. Having symptoms is not what should make you think about self-isolating, it is the close contact that should make you self-isolate.

Do both

surfndestroy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

macphisto wrote:Like say someone you live with had symptoms and then tested positive, would that do it?

No

Why get tested if you show no symptoms. That's just requires you going out in the community when you should be self isolating.

So, here's why ....

1) If you're scheduled a test, you're going into an environment where they've prepared to have potential COVID cases and test them safely. It will probably even be a drive-thru situation.
2) You will know if you do or do not have it. That might be worth a piece of mind next month b/c you won't worry about getting sick or getting a loved one sick.
3) Your positive test will activate tracing staff who can talk to you about where you've been and can call people who you may have infected prior to thinking you had COVID and get them either tested or into isolation. That's how we stop transmission.

There's no way to stop transmission anymore.

verb_to_trust wrote:There's no way to stop transmission anymore.

Fair enough, change my word choice to "slow transmission."

B wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

macphisto wrote:Like say someone you live with had symptoms and then tested positive, would that do it?

No

Why get tested if you show no symptoms. That's just requires you going out in the community when you should be self isolating.

So, here's why ....

1) If you're scheduled a test, you're going into an environment where they've prepared to have potential COVID cases and test them safely. It will probably even be a drive-thru situation.
2) You will know if you do or do not have it. That might be worth a piece of mind next month b/c you won't worry about getting sick or getting a loved one sick.
3) Your positive test will activate tracing staff who can talk to you about where you've been and can call people who you may have infected prior to thinking you had COVID and get them either tested or into isolation. That's how we stop transmission.

All good points. In our public healthcare environment it just doesn't support (financially or capacity) non-symptomatic testing. If you are living with someone who has it or have a known close contact just self-isolate for 14 days.
Public healthcare is great but is has both financial and capacity limits, and is highly unionized that makes it ability to offer services in a new way very slow to come about. Hell, we don't even offer drive through testing.

surfndestroy wrote:

B wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

macphisto wrote:Like say someone you live with had symptoms and then tested positive, would that do it?

No

Why get tested if you show no symptoms. That's just requires you going out in the community when you should be self isolating.

So, here's why ....

1) If you're scheduled a test, you're going into an environment where they've prepared to have potential COVID cases and test them safely. It will probably even be a drive-thru situation.
2) You will know if you do or do not have it. That might be worth a piece of mind next month b/c you won't worry about getting sick or getting a loved one sick.
3) Your positive test will activate tracing staff who can talk to you about where you've been and can call people who you may have infected prior to thinking you had COVID and get them either tested or into isolation. That's how we stop transmission.

All good points. In our public healthcare environment it just doesn't support (financially or capacity) non-symptomatic testing. If you are living with someone who has it or have a known close contact just self-isolate for 14 days.
Public healthcare is great but is has both financial and capacity limits, and is highly unionized that makes it ability to offer services in a new way very slow to come about. Hell, we don't even offer drive through testing.

That's so frustrating. Not testing for asymptomatic testing is the same as not testing at all. If someone comes to you with difficulty breathing and a fever, they have COVID. You barely need to test, and they've already been spreading it for a week minimum.

I gotta say if there is one good thing about this virus is that it has given B a purpose on this board where hes one of the best at it besides reposting someone elses post


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I was listening to an NPR expert on how Trump's interference with vaccine development is troubling. I almost laughed. The bureaucrats at the FDA are the ones slow rolling shit and absolutely refusing to remove red tape. Are they really going to cave in to Trump? The needless deaths of so many hasn't bothered them, why should Trump?

spike wrote:

Remember when Justin Turner open mouth kissed his wife hours after testing positive?

Norris wrote:

spike wrote:

Remember when Justin Turner open mouth kissed his wife hours after testing positive?

i'm still pissed he walked away from that seemingly unscathed, outside of public rage for all of two days.

maybe no one will sign him this off season, but i doubt it.

simple schoolboy wrote:I was listening to an NPR expert on how Trump's interference with vaccine development is troubling. I almost laughed. The bureaucrats at the FDA are the ones slow rolling shit and absolutely refusing to remove red tape. Are they really going to cave in to Trump? The needless deaths of so many hasn't bothered them, why should Trump?

Well, FDA has two, very good reasons for not skipping their scrutiny.

1) If the vaccine starts killing people or has some side effect that makes people avoid it, we're good and truly fucked.
2) If people don't trust that the vaccine has been vetted properly, they won't take it, and we're good and truly fucked.

The vaccine has to be safe and effective, and people have to believe that, or we're just going to be letting COVID run it's course and wipe out 3 million Americans or leave us locked in our house forever.

B wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:I was listening to an NPR expert on how Trump's interference with vaccine development is troubling. I almost laughed. The bureaucrats at the FDA are the ones slow rolling shit and absolutely refusing to remove red tape. Are they really going to cave in to Trump? The needless deaths of so many hasn't bothered them, why should Trump?

Well, FDA has two, very good reasons for not skipping their scrutiny.

1) If the vaccine starts killing people or has some side effect that makes people avoid it, we're good and truly fucked.
2) If people don't trust that the vaccine has been vetted properly, they won't take it, and we're good and truly fucked.

The vaccine has to be safe and effective, and people have to believe that, or we're just going to be letting COVID run it's course and wipe out 3 million Americans or leave us locked in our house forever.

If they haven't been bothered to clarify the treatment guidelines for Remedesvir and are making home tests require prescriptions, we can pretty safely be assured that something with potential risk involved won't be streamlined.

They insist on making everything as painful as possible, even when the risk is insignificant. Require a pharmaceutical consult or something for a home test? Makes a bit more sense than an RX.

I can't really speak to a prescription for the home tests, but I do know that my nurse friends laugh at the self-administered COVID tests at CVS and that's with a pharmacist watching you. It might have something to do with that.

Or it might have to do with some type of legislation that governs it. I know Republicans feel very strongly that Plan B should require a prescription, maybe they were going after that and fucked up other stuff as well.

This is all guessing.

B wrote:I can't really speak to a prescription for the home tests, but I do know that my nurse friends laugh at the self-administered COVID tests at CVS and that's with a pharmacist watching you. It might have something to do with that.

Or it might have to do with some type of legislation that governs it. I know Republicans feel very strongly that Plan B should require a prescription, maybe they were going after that and fucked up other stuff as well.

This is all guessing.

You're defaulting to some legislative issue? They are part and parcel of the administrative state. Congress made them, but they get to do pretty much whatever they want. Issue new guidance, re-interpret whatever (Provided they stick with the required notification and comment periods)

If there were a legislative issue, shouldn't they be urgently petitioning Congress to fix it? Seems like the FDA is fine with how things are going.

Donald Trump Jr. has tested positive for the coronavirus

Cocaine must weaken ones immune system

B wrote:The vaccine has to be safe and effective, and people have to believe that, or we're just going to be letting COVID run it's course and wipe out 3 million Americans or leave us locked in our house forever.

You realize this is all new technology being used with a very rushed testing period. Risks and mitigation to risks are all theoretical. Thinking we really know about the safety of the vaccine is really just willful ignorance or wishful thinking.