Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Disclaimer: I have no idea if Topeka Kansas is a liberal city

There's a book called What's the Matter with Kansas? which argues that the brand of anti-elitest, populist conservatism which probably propelled Trump to the presidency grew out of Kansas, which for generations had been a stronghold of liberal populism. The book came out in 2004, so it didn't discuss Trump or anything, but it's fascinating that you chose that city.

Do they still have that Creationist museum thing there? I need to learn about my ancestors riding dinosaurs.

I think it's in Kentucky, actually.

That Chapo article is over a year old, btw.

theplatypus wrote:That Chapo article is over a year old, btw.

I know, just thinkin El Chapo might have been misjudged is all.

Are you advocating for the assassination of the president-elect of the United States?

And people thought I was going to get the FBI to the board.

I thought Sean Penn already arrested that guy. for America.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote: The violence is part of a mourning process. The hope is that something more peaceful and coherent will coalesce, but for right now, the sheer impact of the protests is enough to send a clear message to those who need to decide how closely aligned with Trump they wish to be.

One million percent chance this quote doesn't exist if Hillary won and righties turned violent.

I would 100% still view it as a mourning process, and strive to have empathy for that. And perhaps I would still want the protesters to all show up at once, in a non-violent manner, rather than a rash of violent protest across the country. But obviously I wouldn't be rooting for their cause or anything.

and I do believe there is a difference. These people are frightened of having their civil liberties ripped from them. There is a difference here.

The gun owners would have the same fear.

Bit if a false equivalency here. I understand they would be upset but why? Hillary wasn't going to take their guns. Pence has a proven record of his absurd medieval ideals on gay's, marriage, womens rights etc...

Pretty sure she would, especially if she had congress and the courts behind her. Why wouldn't she? Wouldn't you be pissed if she didn't try?

But anyway, saying it's ok because you're right is a facile argument. Everyone thinks they are right. Especially me.

Im fine with people having guns, burt. I dont want them. I dont want to be around them. But i am fine if others do

theplatypus wrote:I'm wondering what your ideal protest would look like. "OK fam I know we're all upset right now but let's all get organized and meet up in Topeka Kansas on January 21st"

That's essentially what the Tea Party did. Then they went and voted. It worked pretty well.

theplatypus wrote:Are you advocating for the assassination of the president-elect of the United States?

I'm sayin there's lots of US citizens hurtin' right now, could use $100MM.

bart wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I'm wondering what your ideal protest would look like. "OK fam I know we're all upset right now but let's all get organized and meet up in Topeka Kansas on January 21st"

That's essentially what the Tea Party did. Then they went and voted. It worked pretty well.

That's a good point I think. The various movements on the Left haven't been able to form a political wing. And I think part of that is because an entire generation of people have been brought up with the idea that protesting "just sort of works somehow. Like magic. Because MLK." The Right seems to have less of an aversion to being The Man.

Thanks, Eddie Vedder.

Strat wrote: Bit if a false equivalency here. I understand they would be upset but why? Hillary wasn't going to take their guns. Pence has a proven record of his absurd medieval ideals on gay's, marriage, womens rights etc...

The right to own multiple instruments of death is far more important than individual human rights. Everybody knows that. [/Conservative Logic]

Simple Torture wrote:

Land of the Free.

bart wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I'm wondering what your ideal protest would look like. "OK fam I know we're all upset right now but let's all get organized and meet up in Topeka Kansas on January 21st"

That's essentially what the Tea Party did. Then they went and voted. It worked pretty well.

Sure, but it's five days after the election happened. I'm not really expecting people to have a five-year plan yet.

Yeah this seems like a completely different type of thing.

Also: one thing I haven't seen mentioned is that, although the huge majority of people protesting are probably lefties, there are also anti-Trump conservatives out there with them. One of the people I was with is a staunch Rand Paul Republican.

when the local portland area toyota dealership was smashed up were the priuses spared?



the answer might surprise you

BurtReynolds wrote:I thought Sean Penn already arrested that guy. for America.

If you campaigned on a platform of shooting Sean Penn into space, I'd vote for you.

ABNorman wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I thought Sean Penn already arrested that guy. for America.

If you campaigned on a platform of shooting Sean Penn into space, I'd vote for you.

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