Re: Dark Matter: Official Album Thread
Posted: Wed April 17, 2024 2:10 am
Just under 50 hours to go for me. Digging tonight's reviews.
And a thing i picked up from some of the interviews, probably the stone one more, they dont get a grip on what he is trying to say, he tends to be more protective of the lyrics, i dont think the simplicity here makes them bad or subpat, there is a questioning in his lyrics/ delivery.Rob wrote:I like this.unLEASHed wrote:I actually think its not about Cornell per se, i think its about all the lost comrades. There is a connection about Scared of Fear and Setting Sun, “we had our own scene” - “Am I the only one hanging on”, there are other lyrics that support this but I dont remember them correctly.Rob wrote:This has occurred to me, as well. There is a Cornell presence on this. The recording is obviously not good but one of the outtros (WFS?) has what sounds like a Cornell-like howl by Eddie that got me thinking about it.warehouse wrote:all of the songs are about chris cornell
I think he framed it all through the album from another perspective…some feeling of sorrow and a wish they would be there (here, at this point in time) with him. Thats my take on it…
Scared of FearunLEASHed wrote:And a thing i picked up from some of the interviews, probably the stone one more, they dont get a grip on what he is trying to say, he tends to be more protective of the lyrics, i dont think the simplicity here makes them bad or subpat, there is a questioning in idk his lyrics/ delivery.Rob wrote:I like this.unLEASHed wrote:I actually think its not about Cornell per se, i think its about all the lost comrades. There is a connection about Scared of Fear and Setting Sun, “we had our own scene” - “Am I the only one hanging on”, there are other lyrics that support this but I dont remember them correctly.Rob wrote:This has occurred to me, as well. There is a Cornell presence on this. The recording is obviously not good but one of the outtros (WFS?) has what sounds like a Cornell-like howl by Eddie that got me thinking about it.warehouse wrote:all of the songs are about chris cornell
I think he framed it all through the album from another perspective…some feeling of sorrow and a wish they would be there (here, at this point in time) with him. Thats my take on it…e
The way the recorded the album, writing the lyrics on the spot, might have made him nostalgic about that period of time, not the music in itself but more the feeling of not beeing alone anymore, finding a “scene” where he belongs, with comrades, well, might have lighted a spark, and looking back, a bunch of them are gone. Even Upper Hand, Wreckage…feels like there is a comon theme around most of the songs, or at least on that connects the dots.
So it’s a choice you don’t like, resulting in a product you don’t like. I just don’t know how you get from there to “it’s bad production.” There are 5 guys in this band that I assume can tell the difference between good and bad production.tragabigzanda wrote:The choice is mass appeal, and thus to leverage the production tactics of the mainstream marketplace, and that those tactics are deeply at odds with what I love about the bandRob wrote:Also, doesn’t your argument boil down to a half of fame level rock band, with a producer who has worked with the best artists, doing bad work? And as a choice? I’m not sure I’m buying this. Maybe you just don’t like it.Rob wrote:I don’t think they intended this to be an iPhone recording of it playing on a speaker.tragabigzanda wrote:I bet most of you guys blow right past a sentence like this as if it’s not indicative of artistic intentionsRob wrote:The recording is obviously not good but
The end of Setting Sun is really awesome. I feel like the song plods along a bit slowly at the start which holds it back, and I wish they would have really extended the back half ( maybe an atmospheric solo) but the final melodic lines are just fantastic, similar to Parting Waysbluestate wrote:Just got back...
May our days be long until Kingdom come
Wont tell (a soul), is the most intriguing one, lyrics wise, because of the way its framed, relatioship thing and all, (from what I can remember the minor chord line is a fine one), but i think the centerpiece of the album is Upper Hand.mikejasond wrote:Scared of FearunLEASHed wrote:And a thing i picked up from some of the interviews, probably the stone one more, they dont get a grip on what he is trying to say, he tends to be more protective of the lyrics, i dont think the simplicity here makes them bad or subpat, there is a questioning in idk his lyrics/ delivery.Rob wrote:I like this.unLEASHed wrote:I actually think its not about Cornell per se, i think its about all the lost comrades. There is a connection about Scared of Fear and Setting Sun, “we had our own scene” - “Am I the only one hanging on”, there are other lyrics that support this but I dont remember them correctly.Rob wrote:This has occurred to me, as well. There is a Cornell presence on this. The recording is obviously not good but one of the outtros (WFS?) has what sounds like a Cornell-like howl by Eddie that got me thinking about it.warehouse wrote:all of the songs are about chris cornell
I think he framed it all through the album from another perspective…some feeling of sorrow and a wish they would be there (here, at this point in time) with him. Thats my take on it…e
The way the recorded the album, writing the lyrics on the spot, might have made him nostalgic about that period of time, not the music in itself but more the feeling of not beeing alone anymore, finding a “scene” where he belongs, with comrades, well, might have lighted a spark, and looking back, a bunch of them are gone. Even Upper Hand, Wreckage…feels like there is a comon theme around most of the songs, or at least on that connects the dots.
Wreckage
Setting Sun
Upper Hand
Seemed to set a similar tone. But even some lyrics of react/respond which I thought was political and maybe was seemed directed at somebody much more personal. And Won’t Tell seemed odd.
tragabigzanda wrote:Again,
I don't know anything about DM yet beyond the singles, so I can't really speak to the new one yet, but I think it's fair to say that there's some evidence over the course of their career that they're not always great at telling the difference. S/T particularly stands out as a strong group of songs not served well at all by the album's production.Rob wrote:So it’s a choice you don’t like, resulting in a product you don’t like. I just don’t know how you get from there to “it’s bad production.” There are 5 guys in this band that I assume can tell the difference between good and bad production.tragabigzanda wrote:The choice is mass appeal, and thus to leverage the production tactics of the mainstream marketplace, and that those tactics are deeply at odds with what I love about the bandRob wrote:Also, doesn’t your argument boil down to a half of fame level rock band, with a producer who has worked with the best artists, doing bad work? And as a choice? I’m not sure I’m buying this. Maybe you just don’t like it.Rob wrote:I don’t think they intended this to be an iPhone recording of it playing on a speaker.tragabigzanda wrote:I bet most of you guys blow right past a sentence like this as if it’s not indicative of artistic intentionsRob wrote:The recording is obviously not good but
This is not a position I thought we'd ever see this board in....B wrote:I'm the only 3 star ranking with no 2s or 1s? I dislike this album more than anyone on the board?
Classic BB wrote:I'm the only 3 star ranking with no 2s or 1s? I dislike this album more than anyone on the board?