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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun January 24, 2016 6:46 pm
by VinylGuy
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I will say, though, that what holds it back from greatness is that it never really arrives at a conclusion about its themes or offers any major insight. It explores, and explores interestingly, but that's all.
Exactly. Its just a cool premise..and its actually a little more conservative than it seems.

But, its well shot and the characters are nice, so you stay for the whole movie.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun January 24, 2016 6:53 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I've been going through a big Spielberg kick over the last 6 months or so, and last night I rewatched Schindler's List for the first time since I was like 15 or something. I was never a big fan, but I was also never a fan of Saving Private Ryan, which I rewatched recently and loved.

This is the first Spielberg rewatch that I actually liked even less. He doesn't have very many misses, but I think this is one of them. It's a weird jumbling of impulses; arguably cinema's warmest humanist tackling what is probably the most inhumane event in history. Because of this, none of Spielberg's best qualities can shine, and he does not have the sensibility to capture the horror of the Holocaust honestly. It winds up feeling very cold and detached, lacking both visceral brutality and nuanced psychological or political depth. Polanski's The Pianist did all of this right, I think - both far more repulsive and disturbing, but also more sensitive and layered in its humanity. SL just comes off monotonous and desensitizing. I came away frustrated by how ineffective it was. Kubrick was right when he said that Spielberg made a movie about success, while the Holocaust was about failure. Really wish The Aryan Papers had happened instead of this.

The girl in the red coat seemed particularly odd and redundant. I don't understand what Spielberg was trying to convey with that, or at least how that beat hammers anything home more than anything else happening in the movie. So much of this seems incoherent.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun January 24, 2016 6:58 pm
by VinylGuy
Im also in a big Spielberg kick these days...but i havent rewatched that one yet. Its coming.

What do you think about Munich? Its a way more adult view of a human tragedy.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun January 24, 2016 7:00 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Munich is one on my need-to-rewatch list. I liked it when it came out, but never thought it had much depth. I'm kind of expecting that to change when I see it again.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun January 24, 2016 7:18 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I will say, though, that what holds it back from greatness is that it never really arrives at a conclusion about its themes or offers any major insight. It explores, and explores interestingly, but that's all.
agreed

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Sun January 24, 2016 7:19 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
i need to rewatch schindler's list...i saw it maybe 3 times or so from high school to college

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Mon January 25, 2016 5:40 pm
by nyquillyn
"Soaked in Bleach"

Ugh. The reenactments were cheesy as fuck. I'd rather they just have a blank screen with the audio tape running than that stupid shit.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 4:14 am
by LoathedVermin72
Beloved might be the most bizarre movie of all time.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 5:04 am
by BurtReynolds
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Beloved might be the most bizarre movie of all time.
Never saw it, but so many people say its weird that I want to see it now.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 5:12 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
"Winfrey has gone on public record stating that she ate 30 pounds of macaroni and cheese when she was informed the Saturday after the movie opened that "we got beat by something called Chucky."[10] Oprah also claimed that Beloved's failure at the box office was the worst moment in her career and brought her into a major depression. "It was the only time in my life that I was ever depressed, and I recognised that I (was) depressed because I've done enough shows (on the topic). 'Oh, this is what people must feel like who are depressed.'"[10]

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 5:36 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 7:12 am
by contamination
turned2black wrote:"Soaked in Bleach"

Ugh. The reenactments were cheesy as fuck. I'd rather they just have a blank screen with the audio tape running than that stupid shit.
Besides being cheesy, you really couldn't tell if all the conversations seen on those reenactments were actually on tape or not, because they played the audio tape only in some scenes.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 7:50 am
by Dev
BONE TOMAHAWK IS pretty good.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 2:56 pm
by southp
Infinitely Polar Bear with Mark Ruffalo and Zoe Saldana was a great little movie.
Ruffalo was easily better in this one than he was in Spotlight.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 3:43 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:Never saw the movie. I remember the book was assigned in my English class during my senior year of high school. I loved it at the time.
I haven't seen the movie either. But can say without hyperbole that it's the best novel in the English language.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 3:47 pm
by epilogue
Carol.

Fuck the haters. I really liked it. Beautiful. Superbly performed. Emotional. Quiet. Well paced. And how wonderful to see to stellar actresses in roles that are actually ... you know... people. So many times in movies like this, the two women just sit around at talk about the facts of what they're doing/experiencing. This is just people living. It's so honest, even in some of the more stylized or hyper-real moments.

Todd Haines does amazing things with time.

Not the best picture of the year. But well worth the time. And well worth seeing for the two leads.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 10:49 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
i almost made it an hour into a most violent year

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 10:50 pm
by Dev
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i almost made it an hour into a most violent year
yeah that movie was terrible

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 10:52 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Dev wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i almost made it an hour into a most violent year
yeah that movie was terrible
i love oscar isaac, but it wasn't worth it today...i'll probably finish it someday though

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Tue January 26, 2016 11:55 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I don't know why they shot that whole movie through a piss filter.