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Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sun December 04, 2022 11:04 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:"The experts" are back with a new one.
That's probably right. Only can grow for so long without continuously ramping up the drama.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sun December 04, 2022 11:06 pm
by BurtReynolds
no shortage of drama on Twitter.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Mon December 05, 2022 9:03 pm
by spike
Checking out Post. this morning.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Tue December 06, 2022 4:33 am
by simple schoolboy
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Tue December 06, 2022 4:44 am
by knee tunes
simple schoolboy wrote:

That's a contradiction btw
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Tue December 06, 2022 4:55 am
by simple schoolboy
knee tunes wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:

That's a contradiction btw
Oh, I'm assured it's all quite consistent. Freedom of speech not freedom of reach and all that.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Wed December 07, 2022 1:13 am
by simple schoolboy
How did Elon neglect to fire James Baker when he let a huge chunk of the company go?
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Fri December 09, 2022 4:34 am
by simple schoolboy
I use Untrack me, so this is functionally how I use a Twitter extension, but I get the sense this is not how the average Twitter or Tweetdeck user experiences the app.
Did anyone ever define "Shadow banning" as you are able to submit a message but it doesn't actually post anywhere in the service other than the Twitter team?
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Fri December 09, 2022 2:12 pm
by BurtReynolds
It's not shadowbanning, it's “Visibility Filtering”.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Fri December 09, 2022 4:07 pm
by simple schoolboy
BurtReynolds wrote:It's not shadowbanning, it's “Visibility Filtering”.
It's a very cute wordgame all the folks that feel the need to defend Twitter are playing.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Fri December 09, 2022 4:11 pm
by BurtReynolds
simple schoolboy wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:It's not shadowbanning, it's “Visibility Filtering”.
It's a very cute wordgame all the folks that feel the need to defend Twitter are playing.
The worst part is that it actually works on a sizeable chunk of the population.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 12:50 pm
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:It's not shadowbanning, it's “Visibility Filtering”.
It's a very cute wordgame all the folks that feel the need to defend Twitter are playing.
The worst part is that it actually works on a sizeable chunk of the population.
woke af
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 1:10 pm
by JuanHamm
spike wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:simple schoolboy wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:It's not shadowbanning, it's “Visibility Filtering”.
It's a very cute wordgame all the folks that feel the need to defend Twitter are playing.
The worst part is that it actually works on a sizeable chunk of the population.
woke af
Just imagine what a paradise the world would be if everyone were as smart as Burt and Simple Schoolboy.
Curse our stupidity!
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 3:40 pm
by BurtReynolds
Trust me, the real curse is being smart in a world of idiots.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 4:08 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:It's not shadowbanning, it's “Visibility Filtering”.
Oh no

Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 4:20 pm
by BurtReynolds
Yeah he doesn't get it either.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 4:42 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:Yeah he doesn't get it either.
Is there an example of a person or company that ran a social media company of significant size, and didn’t at some point come around to suppressing content, behaviors, or people in order to protect their own financial selves? I genuinely don’t see how there could be. I don’t think such a thing would ever happen organically.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 4:45 pm
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Yeah he doesn't get it either.
Is there an example of a person or company that ran a social media company of significant size, and didn’t at some point come around to suppressing content, behaviors, or people in order to protect their own financial selves? I genuinely don’t see how there could be. I don’t think such a thing would ever happen organically.
Totally? no.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 5:03 pm
by Bi_3
BurtReynolds wrote:McParadigm wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Yeah he doesn't get it either.
Is there an example of a person or company that ran a social media company of significant size, and didn’t at some point come around to suppressing content, behaviors, or people in order to protect their own financial selves? I genuinely don’t see how there could be. I don’t think such a thing would ever happen organically.
Totally? no.
I get that this falls under the "Ok, yes, it's happening but it's a good thing" stage, but McP makes a fair point that brand management and fiduciary duties for publicly traded multinationals are probably indistinguishable from censorship in the overwhelming majority of cases.
Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat December 10, 2022 5:29 pm
by BurtReynolds
I trust Musk as far as I can throw him, but obviously there is a difference in degree between Musk and someone like a Tim Cook or a government bureaucrat turned Trust and Safety committee member, at least so far. Even if he only turns out to be less censorious, that would represent a positive development and reversing of a trend. The above tweet is a few weeks old, but I can't remember if this was before or after he said we was no longer working with the censorship organizations. In any case, It was dumb for several reasons.
He also got raked over the coals in the replies by free speech advocates who have supported him. Perhaps this will educate him on the error of his ways.