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Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 12:30 am
by red calzolaio
TBAMTS wrote:Green Habit wrote:Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.
You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.
Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 4:12 pm
by mray10
I can't blame Carter there.
First, he's not even a typical special teams guy, so he's out there in a tough situation really because of injuries. Second, there was another Bronco right next to him, so I don't think they were out of position. That's all on the returner; he has to be letting the guys in front of him know what he's doing and where the ball is--it's not very easy to downfield block and keep track of a ball above you and a guy behind you.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 5:57 pm
by Chris_H_2
red calzolaio wrote:TBAMTS wrote:Green Habit wrote:Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.
You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.
Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.
No, no need to be,
if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 6:20 pm
by red calzolaio
Chris_H_2 wrote:red calzolaio wrote:TBAMTS wrote:Green Habit wrote:Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.
You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.
Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.
No, no need to be,
if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.
Maybe he should get killed for fielding a punt inside the 15.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 6:24 pm
by Fuck You Jobu
red calzolaio wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:red calzolaio wrote:TBAMTS wrote:Green Habit wrote:Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.
You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.
Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.
No, no need to be,
if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.
Maybe he should get killed for fielding a punt inside the 15.
I thought (inside) the 10 yd line was the "rule"?
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 6:30 pm
by Self
Welker was/is the "safe" punt guy. He was in there to make sure that didn't happen. He's gotta run up to the 15 and make that catch. At the very least he has to make the call before he did. I still love Wes, but it's on him.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 6:36 pm
by red calzolaio
Fuck You Jobu wrote:red calzolaio wrote:Chris_H_2 wrote:red calzolaio wrote:TBAMTS wrote:Green Habit wrote:Coach wrote:I made the case earlier here that a cold weather Super Bowl in NYC will affect the outcome. Last night was further evidence of this distinct possibility:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--did-c ... 33449.html
Manning is now 3-8 lifetime in games where the temperature was below 32 degrees at kickoff, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. In those games he now has 13 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, nothing close to his better than 2 to 1 TDs-to-interceptions (472 to 216) career ratio.
If it wasn't for bonehead plays from Rahim Moore and Tony Carter, that could have been 5-6. Also, most of those games would have to be road games.
You're really blaming Carter on that play? I thought it was all Welker's fault. Either should have caught it or waived it off sooner.
Carter should never be where he was, never. No need to be.
No, no need to be,
if he's waived off in time to get out of the way. If not, he's there to block or else his return man gets killed.
Maybe he should get killed for fielding a punt inside the 15.
I thought (inside) the 10 yd line was the "rule"?
You're right.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Tue November 26, 2013 11:36 pm
by Green Habit
Welker, of course, isn't 100% innocent, but I still think Carter put himself in an bad situation.
On another note, Brandon Browner's probably feeling real stupid right now for not fighting his earlier PED suspension like Richard Sherman did.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 2:12 am
by Electromatic
Green Habit wrote:Welker, of course, isn't 100% innocent, but I still think Carter put himself in an bad situation.
On another note, Brandon Browner's probably feeling real stupid right now for not fighting his earlier PED suspension like Richard Sherman did.
When you say fighting you mean finding a way to legally cheat and then tell everyone how great you are right?
I'm looking forward to his Merriman
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 4:00 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 4:01 pm
by Coach
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.
Yup, and I do love the additional third Thanksgiving game.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 4:04 pm
by EJ
Coach wrote:Biff Pocoroba wrote:Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.
Yup, and I do love the additional third Thanksgiving game.
All of this. They can also keep the kickoff game at the beginning of the season.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 4:05 pm
by Coach
EJ wrote:Coach wrote:Biff Pocoroba wrote:Coach wrote:I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football.
I agree with this too, keeping only the Thanksgiving games.
Yup, and I do love the additional third Thanksgiving game.
All of this. They can also keep the kickoff game at the beginning of the season.
Agreed on that, too.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 4:37 pm
by elliseamos
what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 5:03 pm
by Coach
elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 5:27 pm
by elliseamos
Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.
that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 5:36 pm
by Coach
elliseamos wrote:Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.
that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.
Yup, me too.
On a separate subject, have you checked out the latest Power Rankings? The Top Five:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
2013 Power Rankings: Week 13
1.Seahawks
2.Saints
3.Broncos
4.Patriots
5.Panthers
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 5:43 pm
by elliseamos
Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.
that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.
Yup, me too.
On a separate subject, have you checked out the latest Power Rankings? The Top Five:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
2013 Power Rankings: Week 13
1.Seahawks
2.Saints
3.Broncos
4.Patriots
5.Panthers
i don't know, the saints seem a little overrated.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 5:45 pm
by Coach
elliseamos wrote:Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.
that's my feeling too, but that's how i felt about thursday games before they got overdone.
Yup, me too.
On a separate subject, have you checked out the latest Power Rankings? The Top Five:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings
2013 Power Rankings: Week 13
1.Seahawks
2.Saints
3.Broncos
4.Patriots
5.Panthers
i don't know, the saints seem a little overrated.
I agree with the Top Five here, but it's interesting to see that Carolina is ranked below NE (despite its win over NE), while NE is ranked below the Saints and Broncos, two teams NE beat.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 5:51 pm
by Green Habit
Coach wrote:elliseamos wrote:what about the Saturday games when NCAA games go on hiatus?
That's a good question....I think I'd be fine with leaving those. There aren't too many, and they happen late in the season.
If I remember correctly from what I read, the Saturday games were axed because it was just too difficult to get people to watch games during the holidays when they're usually at parties with friends and family. The current thinking is that Thursday games are going to provide better ratings. If they're right, then as much as many of us dislike those games, they aren't going away.