Red Mosquito

Green Habit wrote:

Self wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Premature, I admit. BUT... after these last three weeks, does Tom Brady's stock go down? In terms of legacy, I'm saying. Is he the GOAT or is it just BB's system? Look what Matt fucking Cassel was able to do. That guy tricked the Chiefs into giving him 60 million dollars because he played for Belichick and that system. Garoppolo looked good until he went out. This rookie peformed really well against another tough defense.

It's amazing to me what Belichick is able to do. I didn't watch the game but it seems like it wasn't even a sloppy game. Obviously, Brady is an excellent QB. I'm not saying he wouldn't have been great in someone else's system. But does the fact that basically anyone can step into the starging QB roll and win games say anything at all about his legacy? Should Brady be taken down a peg? Or is it accurately rated?

What's Belichick's system? Does he line up every week and say, "this is what we do, try and stop it"? He doesn't. Every week the the plan is specific for the team they're playing and what his players can do to stop it/defeat it. Bill is a much better game planner and coach than talent evaluator. I'm pretty sure the scouts do most of that work.

Jimmy G. has looked really, really good, this season. I didn't expect it. Who did? His release is damn quick and he's been reading his progressions like the game isn't too fast for him. Tough for a guy with virtually no experience.

Brissett did nothing special last night, as far as throwing the ball. I was impressed with the way he slid on a few scrambles after getting the 1st; showed maturity for a rookie. But, last night was all about the defense and special teams. No way that and/or Matt Cassel takes away from Brady's GOAT status. The offense is a completely different animal with 12 under center.

spike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:The Julian Edelman era begins!

Self wrote:

spike wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:The Julian Edelman era begins!

spike wrote:Belichick will just cook up a gameplan that doesn't utilize a QB; direct snaps to Blount and White all game or something.

They'll still be 4-0.

doug rr wrote:

Self wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Premature, I admit. BUT... after these last three weeks, does Tom Brady's stock go down? In terms of legacy, I'm saying. Is he the GOAT or is it just BB's system? Look what Matt fucking Cassel was able to do. That guy tricked the Chiefs into giving him 60 million dollars because he played for Belichick and that system. Garoppolo looked good until he went out. This rookie peformed really well against another tough defense.

It's amazing to me what Belichick is able to do. I didn't watch the game but it seems like it wasn't even a sloppy game. Obviously, Brady is an excellent QB. I'm not saying he wouldn't have been great in someone else's system. But does the fact that basically anyone can step into the starging QB roll and win games say anything at all about his legacy? Should Brady be taken down a peg? Or is it accurately rated?

What's Belichick's system? Does he line up every week and say, "this is what we do, try and stop it"? He doesn't. Every week the the plan is specific for the team they're playing and what his players can do to stop it/defeat it. Bill is a much better game planner and coach than talent evaluator. I'm pretty sure the scouts do most of that work.

Jimmy G. has looked really, really good, this season. I didn't expect it. Who did? His release is damn quick and he's been reading his progressions like the game isn't too fast for him. Tough for a guy with virtually no experience.

Brissett did nothing special last night, as far as throwing the ball. I was impressed with the way he slid on a few scrambles after getting the 1st; showed maturity for a rookie. But, last night was all about the defense and special teams. No way that and/or Matt Cassel takes away from Brady's GOAT status. The offense is a completely different animal with 12 under center.

i would never say 18 under center..

durdencommatyler wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

PHATJ wrote:

Peeps wrote:we'd?????

t,d what position do you play for the chiefs

Sports fans that say "we"

Oh please. Peeps probably tells people he plays for the Penguins.

Simple Torture wrote:It'd be hilarious if the Pats sent a 6th-round pick to the Titans for Cassel and he threw 400 yards against Buffalo.

Mecca wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:It'd be hilarious if the Pats sent a 6th-round pick to the Titans for Cassel and he threw 400 yards against Buffalo.

No it would not

Simple Torture wrote:

Mecca wrote:

Simple Torture wrote:It'd be hilarious if the Pats sent a 6th-round pick to the Titans for Cassel and he threw 400 yards against Buffalo.

No it would not

In Buffalo's case, it'd be funny in the "imagining Sisyphus happy" sense.

Electromatic wrote:The thing is they miss in the draft and free agency like everyone else. What they don't do like most coaches in the NFL (and the world) is force the talent into a box. They tailor their system to what the players do well, they spend money mostly where it counts, and they get versatile players otherwise. They evaluate in house better than anyone...ever. Truly good coaching, putting players in position to succeed based on the players talent, not just a system that the coached learned somewhere.

@SkitchP wrote:

Electromatic wrote:The thing is they miss in the draft and free agency like everyone else. What they don't do like most coaches in the NFL (and the world) is force the talent into a box. They tailor their system to what the players do well, they spend money mostly where it counts, and they get versatile players otherwise. They evaluate in house better than anyone...ever. Truly good coaching, putting players in position to succeed based on the players talent, not just a system that the coached learned somewhere.

and get the best QB of all time to build around for 2 decades for virtually nothing helps too.

@SkitchP wrote:

Electromatic wrote:The thing is they miss in the draft and free agency like everyone else. What they don't do like most coaches in the NFL (and the world) is force the talent into a box. They tailor their system to what the players do well, they spend money mostly where it counts, and they get versatile players otherwise. They evaluate in house better than anyone...ever. Truly good coaching, putting players in position to succeed based on the players talent, not just a system that the coached learned somewhere.

and get the best QB of all time to build around for 2 decades for virtually nothing helps too.

@SkitchP wrote:

Electromatic wrote:The thing is they miss in the draft and free agency like everyone else. What they don't do like most coaches in the NFL (and the world) is force the talent into a box. They tailor their system to what the players do well, they spend money mostly where it counts, and they get versatile players otherwise. They evaluate in house better than anyone...ever. Truly good coaching, putting players in position to succeed based on the players talent, not just a system that the coached learned somewhere.

and get the best QB of all time to build around for 2 decades for virtually nothing helps too.

Simple Torture wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

Electromatic wrote:The thing is they miss in the draft and free agency like everyone else. What they don't do like most coaches in the NFL (and the world) is force the talent into a box. They tailor their system to what the players do well, they spend money mostly where it counts, and they get versatile players otherwise. They evaluate in house better than anyone...ever. Truly good coaching, putting players in position to succeed based on the players talent, not just a system that the coached learned somewhere.

and get the best QB of all time to build around for 2 decades for virtually nothing helps too.

This is only Stafford's 8th year.

spike wrote:so is gronk gonna catch some touchdowns this weekend?