Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

[LoathedVermin72]

what was its deeper philosophic message?

To put it briefly, it deals with the Kantian sublime, coming to terms with your past/family/trauma/self, and the passage into adulthood.

[Strat]

what was its deeper philosophic message?

To put it briefly, it deals with the Kantian sublime, coming to terms with your past/family/trauma/self, and the passage into adulthood.

Like Star Wars

[LoathedVermin72]

what was its deeper philosophic message?

To put it briefly, it deals with the Kantian sublime, coming to terms with your past/family/trauma/self, and the passage into adulthood.

Like Star Wars

[@SkitchP]

I just pulled the trigger on the sphero BB8 that's controlled by your phone. I wanted to stay true to the Hasbro brand, but this sphero one, while more expensive, blows it out of the water:

the only thing that stopped me from this was some of the reviews were less than stellar.

[stip]

what was its deeper philosophic message?

To put it briefly, it deals with the Kantian sublime, coming to terms with your past/family/trauma/self, and the passage into adulthood.

I can see where that's there, though the first is the only one I think it comes close to saying anything interesting about.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Plus it has that base. I want the rolling ball. Certainly we have the technology to have an actual bb8, right?

[Biff Pocoroba]

I'm sure it's probably been mentioned in the previous nearly 60 pages but what if Rae isn't Luke's daughter but Ren/Ben's twin sister?

[stip]

I think the consensus is that Han/Luke would have known and said something.

[E.H. Ruddock]

But they COULD have done it well. The idea is fine (though not necessary) but since you're peeling back the curtain on one of the most intriguing villains ever you gotta do it right.

For example, not casting Hayden Christensen

[Kaius]

T-minus 15 minutes for me!

[B]

I think the consensus is that Han/Luke would have known and said something.

I think Luke might not even know he has a daughter. If he'd had a daughter that he abandoned when stuff with Kylo went bad, Han would have known that and thus known who Rey is.

[stip]

have a blast

[@SkitchP]

Plus it has that base. I want the rolling ball. Certainly we have the technology to have an actual bb8, right?

That has the rolling ball. The base is just for storage.

[Chris_H_2]

Plus it has that base. I want the rolling ball. Certainly we have the technology to have an actual bb8, right?

That has the rolling ball. The base is just for storage.

And it's a charger

[Chris_H_2]

I just pulled the trigger on the sphero BB8 that's controlled by your phone. I wanted to stay true to the Hasbro brand, but this sphero one, while more expensive, blows it out of the water:

the only thing that stopped me from this was some of the reviews were less than stellar.

evidently the range on the hasbro one sucks, and you have to be pointing it directly at the droid the entire time

[@SkitchP]

Plus it has that base. I want the rolling ball. Certainly we have the technology to have an actual bb8, right?

That has the rolling ball. The base is just for storage.

And it's a charger

I wasn't going to tell him that part because then he just would have said that the real BB-8 doesn't need a charger.

[spike]

Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.

lololololol

Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....

lol @ the idea that TFA does this any meaningful way, or that this is what Kasdan was talking about. If anything, how there is now magically a new organization that is exactly like the Empire is something that needs to be explained way more urgently than all the other things that get talked to death through mindless exposition in this shitshow of a movie.

Dude, all that happened in jedi was Vader and Palpatine were dismissed. There are still thousands of clones and soldiers around the galaxy. Someone stepped up into their place. THis HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD. Also, there is a story with Snoke.

How is that difficult for you to comprehend? I truly am astounded.

The celebration at the end of ROTJ was way more cathartic than just some leaders were killed and now someone else was just gonna step in. The Empire was destroyed. The war was over. I'm not cool with new filmmakers just stepping in and saying, "Oh, actually, the bad guys weren't defeated and now the Empire is just called something else." Bullshit.

lol

[spike]

Plus it has that base. I want the rolling ball. Certainly we have the technology to have an actual bb8, right?

That has the rolling ball. The base is just for storage.

And it's a charger

I wasn't going to tell him that part because then he just would have said that the real BB-8 doesn't need a charger.

Spoiler: show

let's see if it can go down stairs

[bada]

Yea i dont need those plot holes filled in. It doesnt matter. I believe this is what JJ was talking about when Kasdan told him to the trust the audience. I dont need to know exactly how and who the first order, or what the republic/resistance relationship is, or why the Falcon was on there. Its easy to read between the lines and ultimately it just doesnt fucking matter.

lololololol

Is it difficult for you to read betweent he lines and connect dots? That would make sense considering blackhat and ridiculous 6....

lol @ the idea that TFA does this any meaningful way, or that this is what Kasdan was talking about. If anything, how there is now magically a new organization that is exactly like the Empire is something that needs to be explained way more urgently than all the other things that get talked to death through mindless exposition in this shitshow of a movie.

Dude, all that happened in jedi was Vader and Palpatine were dismissed. There are still thousands of clones and soldiers around the galaxy. Someone stepped up into their place. THis HAPPENS IN THE REAL WORLD. Also, there is a story with Snoke.

How is that difficult for you to comprehend? I truly am astounded.

The celebration at the end of ROTJ was way more cathartic than just some leaders were killed and now someone else was just gonna step in. The Empire was destroyed. The war was over. I'm not cool with new filmmakers just stepping in and saying, "Oh, actually, the bad guys weren't defeated and now the Empire is just called something else." Bullshit.

lol

Europe wants their quote back.

[spike]

my BB-8 stairs post in the other thread got me thinking how easy it is in the star wars world for everyone to access all areas. rey and BB-8 able to go down a stairwell and into an unlocked room to discover a mass of treasures, the pirates boarding han's freighter no problem, seemingly every door on starkiller base easily accessible by pressing a button or pulling down a latch. and of course the millenium falcon having no keys.

it's just another example of the importance of not taking the SW universe too seriously, including massive plot holes, the lack of character backstories, etc. these movies are really just big, dumb action movies aimed at kids, and they're meant to be fun first.