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I never did care much for Gladiator. I would certainly call it Scott's most overrated film.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Rewatching Carrie. My god, De Palma is freakin' incredible. Every shot is so carefully composed, every cut so precisely orchestrated. This is the kind of craftsmanship contemporary filmmakers don't seem to grasp.

thanks for bottom-paging me, joey

I don't understand how someone who can make movies as visually overwhelming as Legend, Blade Runner, or even Prometheus can then make a movie as visually incompetent as The Martian. Scott is a baffling director.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:thanks for bottom-paging me, joey

You're so very welcome, Ruddster.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't understand how someone who can make movies as visually overwhelming as Legend, Blade Runner, or even Prometheus can then make a movie as visually incompetent as The Martian. Scott is a baffling director.

OR... maybe The Martian isn't visually incompetent.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't understand how someone who can make movies as visually overwhelming as Legend, Blade Runner, or even Prometheus can then make a movie as visually incompetent as The Martian. Scott is a baffling director.

OR... maybe The Martian isn't visually incompetent.

No, it really is. It's over-edited. Shot selection is lazy and haphazard. Cinematography is flat. It's so bizarre, because Prometheus is just the opposite.

that and fassbender were about the only things prometheus had going for it

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:that and fassbender were about the only things prometheus had going for it

and Elba and Rapace

durdencommatyler wrote:I never did care much for Gladiator. I would certainly call it Scott's most overrated film.

wat

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:that and fassbender were about the only things prometheus had going for it

and Elba and Rapace

oh yeah i forgot about elba...i found rapace mostly forgettable in this role...more to do with the character than her performance though

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't understand how someone who can make movies as visually overwhelming as Legend, Blade Runner, or even Prometheus can then make a movie as visually incompetent as The Martian. Scott is a baffling director.

OR... maybe The Martian isn't visually incompetent.

No, it really is. It's over-edited. Shot selection is lazy and haphazard. Cinematography is flat. It's so bizarre, because Prometheus is just the opposite.

I'll agree some of the editing and shot choices are strange. I don't think the cinematography is flat, I really don't understand that criticism. Yet it continues to come up, so it really must just be me. But, yeah, there are some odd choices, for sure. I'm not confident using the word lazy, but I won't argue with haphazard.

i'd probably like gladiator less now than i did ten years ago...but like i said scott just doesn't do a ton for me

Kaius wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I never did care much for Gladiator. I would certainly call it Scott's most overrated film.

wat

I said I NEVER DID CARE MUCH FOR GLADIATOR. I WOULD CERTAINLY CALL IT SCOTT'S MOST OVERRATED FILM.

Have you guys seen the extended cut of Gladiator? It's like a completely different movie. It becomes a political thriller instead of an action-driven revenge movie.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Have you guys seen the extended cut of Gladiator? It's like a completely different movie. It becomes a political thriller instead of an action-driven revenge movie.

Huh. No, I have not seen that. But maybe I should.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Have you guys seen the extended cut of Gladiator? It's like a completely different movie. It becomes a political thriller instead of an action-driven revenge movie.

interesting...i need to find that

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Have you guys seen the extended cut of Gladiator? It's like a completely different movie. It becomes a political thriller instead of an action-driven revenge movie.

Huh. No, I have not seen that. But maybe I should.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD

Personally, I don't think it improves the movie, but that's just me. It really does feel like something totally different.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Have you guys seen the extended cut of Gladiator? It's like a completely different movie. It becomes a political thriller instead of an action-driven revenge movie.

Huh. No, I have not seen that. But maybe I should.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD

YOU THINK I SHOULD