To summarize, since Biden has a history of being weak on abortion, pro-business, and being creepy to women, that he should run against Trump as a Republican and then get beat by a Democrat in the general election.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 2:59 pm
by Rob
Green Habit wrote:
Mickey wrote:But I don't find any value in the idea that being somehow torn between Democrats and Republicans--especially on a national level--is somehow admirable or inherently an expression of critical thinking rather than an indication that you have not thought seriously about your political commitments.
OK, try me.
If you take my worldview, much of which many of you know of from my years of posting in this forum, you'll know that it does not come even close with aligning with either major party in the United States. It's unfortunate, but I'm also realistic enough to know that I likely will never get such an alignment. I'm also realistic enough to know that the American form of government brutally imposes a two party system, and in almost all cases voting for a third party does, at best, jack shit. So what does that leave me with? Well, the best I can manage, since I don't fully trust the agenda of either party, is to vote for gridlock, and ensure that no one party holds all the branches of power in government. That naturally leads to a lot of ticket splitting on my part. I'll let you judge for yourself as to whether that's "an expression of critical thinking", but I would like to hope that it is.
I live in New England, where it's pretty common to have a Democratic legislature and Republican governor. People seem to like this arrangement. Republican politicians out here seem a bit more moderate on social/cultural issues compared to other places though, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 3:39 pm
by Bi_3
Rob wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Mickey wrote:But I don't find any value in the idea that being somehow torn between Democrats and Republicans--especially on a national level--is somehow admirable or inherently an expression of critical thinking rather than an indication that you have not thought seriously about your political commitments.
OK, try me.
If you take my worldview, much of which many of you know of from my years of posting in this forum, you'll know that it does not come even close with aligning with either major party in the United States. It's unfortunate, but I'm also realistic enough to know that I likely will never get such an alignment. I'm also realistic enough to know that the American form of government brutally imposes a two party system, and in almost all cases voting for a third party does, at best, jack shit. So what does that leave me with? Well, the best I can manage, since I don't fully trust the agenda of either party, is to vote for gridlock, and ensure that no one party holds all the branches of power in government. That naturally leads to a lot of ticket splitting on my part. I'll let you judge for yourself as to whether that's "an expression of critical thinking", but I would like to hope that it is.
I live in New England, where it's pretty common to have a Democratic legislature and Republican governor. People seem to like this arrangement. Republican politicians out here seem a bit more moderate on social/cultural issues compared to other places though, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.
We have this in MD as well and it's been very effective for balancing things like expanding Medicaid coverage and reducing carbon emissions while simultaneously attracting higher quality employers.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 4:00 pm
by McParadigm
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 4:33 pm
by Green Habit
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 10:01 pm
by verb_to_trust
Farmers will vote against their own economic interests as long as brown people suffer and babies get saved.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 10:10 pm
by bune
which is stupid because some of those brown people pick their crops!
and now I feel bad for typing that. Thanks verb.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Fri June 07, 2019 10:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
People who say shit like "they are voting against their own interests":
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 12:01 am
by verb_to_trust
I know a lot of Farmers Burt, do you?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 12:14 am
by BurtReynolds
A few. They don't even rely on migrant slave laborers.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 12:40 am
by McParadigm
Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 12:52 am
by wease
McParadigm wrote:Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.
But is it part of Mars?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 12:59 am
by doug rr
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.
But is it part of Mars?
and underwater?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 1:08 am
by McParadigm
doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.
But is it part of Mars?
and underwater?
Some of it, and some of it.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 2:09 am
by verb_to_trust
BurtReynolds wrote:A few. They don't even rely on migrant slave laborers.
Do they vote against their own economic interests?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 2:26 am
by Simple Torture
McParadigm wrote:
doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.
But is it part of Mars?
and underwater?
Some of it, and some of it.
Farms ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Sat June 08, 2019 2:56 am
by McParadigm
Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
doug rr wrote:
wease wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Since it’s a topic, we recently determined that there are 1,300 acres of pasture and 500 acres of crops in my wife’s immediate family and mine, combined.
