surfndestroy wrote:Thing I don't get is there's more than enough rape stories that finding a true story wouldn't have been hard and a less horrific one would have kept the story about how UVA admin has reacted to reported assaults in the past.
The problem though is actually getting people to come forward on those stories.
Re: modding happening
Posted: Sat December 06, 2014 4:23 pm
by surfndestroy
Green Habit wrote:
surfndestroy wrote:Thing I don't get is there's more than enough rape stories that finding a true story wouldn't have been hard and a less horrific one would have kept the story about how UVA admin has reacted to reported assaults in the past.
The problem though is actually getting people to come forward on those stories.
That wasn't a problem for the story. The writer found lots of victims willing to share their story but the writer went rape story shopping until she found one just sensational enough for her. But as a whole for society, I agree.
Jameis Winston wrote:Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape.
A crazy person accusing me of raping them is fucking terrible. But you know what it's not as terrible as? Some dude shoving his cock inside my body without my consent.
Jameis Winston wrote:Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape.
A crazy person accusing me of raping them is fucking terrible. But you know what it's not as terrible as? Some dude shoving his cock inside my body without my consent.
Jameis Winston wrote:Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape.
A crazy person accusing me of raping them is fucking terrible. But you know what it's not as terrible as? Some dude shoving his cock inside my body without my consent.
If the accusation results in a felony conviction it is probably worse.
Jameis Winston wrote:Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape.
A crazy person accusing me of raping them is fucking terrible. But you know what it's not as terrible as? Some dude shoving his cock inside my body without my consent.
If the accusation results in a felony conviction it is probably worse.
Jameis Winston wrote:Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape.
A crazy person accusing me of raping them is fucking terrible. But you know what it's not as terrible as? Some dude shoving his cock inside my body without my consent.
If the accusation results in a felony conviction it is probably worse.
But that's nowhere near the consequences that Winston is facing in this hearing.
Jameis Winston wrote:Rape is a vicious crime. The only thing as vicious as rape is falsely accusing someone of rape.
A crazy person accusing me of raping them is fucking terrible. But you know what it's not as terrible as? Some dude shoving his cock inside my body without my consent.
If the accusation results in a felony conviction it is probably worse.
You're honestly trying to tell me that the act of saying that somebody raped you when they didn't is arguably worse than fucking someone against their will? Honestly?
You really don't see how fucked up that sounds?
Re: Feminism
Posted: Sun December 07, 2014 5:18 am
by BurtReynolds
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Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 12:39 am
by McParadigm
In addition to potentially ruining somebody's life, the false claim also makes you a big part of the reason it's as hard as it is to convict rapists. So I suppose you are helping to ensure that actual rape isn't prosecuted enough.
But I would bet that most false claims are just like this one…falsely made to the public, not to the police.
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 1:42 am
by Green Habit
On a different note, I have to shake my head at how absurd this advertising campaign is. I'd say that the costume designs make no sense, but of course it depends on what your definition of "sense" is.
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 1:51 am
by B
I feel like a false conviction of rape would wreck a person's life worse than a rape would, but I don't know what I base that on.
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 2:02 am
by Green Habit
B wrote:I feel like a false conviction of rape would wreck a person's life worse than a rape would, but I don't know what I base that on.
Again, Winston said "falsely accusing", not "falsely convicting".
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 2:11 am
by malice
this whole line of conversation leaves a lot to be desired...
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have included it in a thread focused on discussions about feminism. most especially this particular thread seeing its history, but whatever. I don't care, just making an observation
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 3:29 am
by simple schoolboy
malice wrote:this whole line of conversation leaves a lot to be desired...
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have included it in a thread focused on discussions about feminism. most especially this particular thread seeing its history, but whatever. I don't care, just making an observation
Since the feds made college sexual assault a title IX issue, it seems unfortunately to fall under the title of 'feminism'. Seems like a less than ideal approach, but hey, its the feds.
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 3:30 am
by malice
simple schoolboy wrote:
malice wrote:this whole line of conversation leaves a lot to be desired...
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have included it in a thread focused on discussions about feminism. most especially this particular thread seeing its history, but whatever. I don't care, just making an observation
Since the feds made college sexual assault a title IX issue, it seems unfortunately to fall under the title of 'feminism'. Seems like a less than ideal approach, but hey, its the feds.
pls explain how title IX and rape have been made an issue by the feds
Re: Feminism
Posted: Mon December 08, 2014 3:39 am
by simple schoolboy
malice wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
malice wrote:this whole line of conversation leaves a lot to be desired...
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have included it in a thread focused on discussions about feminism. most especially this particular thread seeing its history, but whatever. I don't care, just making an observation
Since the feds made college sexual assault a title IX issue, it seems unfortunately to fall under the title of 'feminism'. Seems like a less than ideal approach, but hey, its the feds.
pls explain how title IX and rape have been made an issue by the feds
I'm surprised you haven't heard of this. The feds issued a memo, along with several campus investigations that have led to the lower standard of proof for campus adjudicated sexual assault hearings. http://www.campussafetymagazine.com/art ... ess-Effort
If I am somehow off base, let me know, but this is consistent with what I've read several places.
