Red Mosquito

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

tragabigzanda wrote:I should maybe try The Terror.

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

You need to watch Ozark. We just started it last week and are into season two right now. Bateman is a goddamn genius. If he directed all of that King series on HBO, I can't fucking wait to watch it.

Rob wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

You need to watch Ozark. We just started it last week and are into season two right now. Bateman is a goddamn genius. If he directed all of that King series on HBO, I can't fucking wait to watch it.

Yea, Ozark is amazing, and just gets better & better. I've only got 3 eps left in season 3. And The Outsider on HBO is really good too. I think Bateman only directed the first two episodes though.

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

wease wrote:

Rob wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

You need to watch Ozark. We just started it last week and are into season two right now. Bateman is a goddamn genius. If he directed all of that King series on HBO, I can't fucking wait to watch it.

Yea, Ozark is amazing, and just gets better & better. I've only got 3 eps left in season 3. And The Outsider on HBO is really good too. I think Bateman only directed the first two episodes though.

Who ever thought the spoiled little shit from Silver Spoons would grow up to be the artist he's become?

Strat wrote:

wease wrote:

Rob wrote:

wease wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

You need to watch Ozark. We just started it last week and are into season two right now. Bateman is a goddamn genius. If he directed all of that King series on HBO, I can't fucking wait to watch it.

Yea, Ozark is amazing, and just gets better & better. I've only got 3 eps left in season 3. And The Outsider on HBO is really good too. I think Bateman only directed the first two episodes though.

Who ever thought the spoiled little shit from Silver Spoons would grow up to be the artist he's become?

Bateman is a national treasure. Ozark, while not very original in its premise, moves about the fray due to performances by Bateman and the casting. It finds its own legs and if i remember correctly in season 1 or two they made a brief mention of walter white (??) as a tongue in cheek play at the show.

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

Devs is nothing like The Americans or Mr. Robot. I haven't actually seen Halt but based on the synopses I've read, I can't imagine it's anything like that show either.

digster wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Appreciate the responses, team. I'm not sure I totally agree. Looking at a show like Devs for example, I can't help but feel it was pitched as "Halt & Catch Fire meets The Americans, with a dash of Mr. Robot." It just seems like all the shows that are somehow crawling above the noise are retreads of shows that have already been made.

I realize this is a somewhat myopic way to view art. But the media landscape is really crowded. I am loving Better Things, which I find really refreshing, even if the Louie influence is heavy; and I do feel like I'm missing out in not watching Ozark, and I'd like to try Mrs. America (but is it just the anti-Mad Men?). Still enjoying the most recent seasons of Insecure and High Maintenance, but these are well-established shows by now...

There's just not a lot of new stuff, meaning in their 1st or 2nd seasons, that is either making its way into my media consciousness; or if it does, it looks derivative of something that's already been successful.

I should maybe try The Terror.

Devs is nothing like The Americans or Mr. Robot. I haven't actually seen Halt but based on the synopses I've read, I can't imagine it's anything like that show either.

I think part of it has to do with the elevation you get from not just being great, but first. The Sopranos is brilliant, but I have little doubt that it's going to be remembered years and decades from now in the way other brilliant shows are not because The Sopranos has been codified as being the beginning of the "golden age." It's like how a songwriter from the 90s or '00s, as brilliant as they may be, may have difficulty permeating the consciousness like Dylan.

theplatypus wrote:I think I will finally get to watching Mad Men

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:anybody watched Catch-22?

Is it about catfishing young twinks?

tragabigzanda wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:anybody watched Catch-22?

Is it about catfishing young twinks?