Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
Posted: Wed June 28, 2017 3:56 am
Everybody calm down.
I want all of those except Han. I dont need to know his backstory. He's cool AF regardless.@SkitchP wrote:I want a Han Solo Movie. I want a Boba Fett movie. I want a Pong Krell Movie and a Chopper Movie. I want them to make a star wars movie for all of everything and I want to watch all of them.
More Star Wars More Better.
Strat wrote:I want all of those except Han. I dont need to know his backstory. He's cool AF regardless.@SkitchP wrote:I want a Han Solo Movie. I want a Boba Fett movie. I want a Pong Krell Movie and a Chopper Movie. I want them to make a star wars movie for all of everything and I want to watch all of them.
More Star Wars More Better.
But, yes, more star wars. I hope this movie turns out great because I need more Star Wars to put on at the end of the day.
@SkitchP wrote:Strat wrote:I want all of those except Han. I dont need to know his backstory. He's cool AF regardless.@SkitchP wrote:I want a Han Solo Movie. I want a Boba Fett movie. I want a Pong Krell Movie and a Chopper Movie. I want them to make a star wars movie for all of everything and I want to watch all of them.
More Star Wars More Better.
But, yes, more star wars. I hope this movie turns out great because I need more Star Wars to put on at the end of the day.
Honestly, I hope this movie ISNT a backstory as much as a "Wacky Adventures ofHan SoloAce Ventura" type thing.
You and (especially) LV have a director's bias. And there's nothing wrong with that. I can totally understand why you're taking the position you're taking here. I have a writer's bias, admittedly. So, of course, I'm going to side more with Disney here. Because as much as I want a director to have a vision and to be able to exercise their creativity on a project, I also believe that film is collaborative. And the writer's work is important, too. Especially on a project like this. These are established characters in some established worlds. It's far more important to be true to the characters here. To listen to them and let them dictate. To me, that's far more important than whatever wack-a-do concept Lord and Miller may have had. They agreed to join a project that already has established mythology and tradition. I'm fine with expanding that mythology and changing the rules of that tradition but it can't be done in a vacuum.VinylGuy wrote:I agree with LV...They were making their movie, they were working to have whatever they wanted to...I saw Rogue One again and the reshoots en reediting of that mess is so fuckin noticeable i dont understand why they hire directors if they dont care about their artistic input...all they want is to play safe specially because audiences are so fucking numb all they want is a copy of a copy. Thats it.
Oh and fucking funko toys.
Agreed. I'm done with less backstory/exposition and more adventuring.@SkitchP wrote:Strat wrote:I want all of those except Han. I dont need to know his backstory. He's cool AF regardless.@SkitchP wrote:I want a Han Solo Movie. I want a Boba Fett movie. I want a Pong Krell Movie and a Chopper Movie. I want them to make a star wars movie for all of everything and I want to watch all of them.
More Star Wars More Better.
But, yes, more star wars. I hope this movie turns out great because I need more Star Wars to put on at the end of the day.
Honestly, I hope this movie ISNT a backstory as much as a "Wacky Adventures of Han Solo" type thing.
Im all for them to make a star wars movie about a new character or new world within Star Wars. But yes, rearranging a character to fit their mold (which i have a feeling is a very one dimensional approach to story telling) then i say GTFO.durdencommatyler wrote:You and (especially) LV have a director's bias. And there's nothing wrong with that. I can totally understand why you're taking the position you're taking here. I have a writer's bias, admittedly. So, of course, I'm going to side more with Disney here. Because as much as I want a director to have a vision and to be able to exercise their creativity on a project, I also believe that film is collaborative. And the writer's work is important, too. Especially on a project like this. These are established characters in some established worlds. It's far more important to be true to the characters here. To listen to them and let them dictate. To me, that's far more important than whatever wack-a-do concept Lord and Miller may have had. They agreed to join a project that already has established mythology and tradition. I'm fine with expanding that mythology and changing the rules of that tradition but it can't be done in a vacuum.VinylGuy wrote:I agree with LV...They were making their movie, they were working to have whatever they wanted to...I saw Rogue One again and the reshoots en reediting of that mess is so fuckin noticeable i dont understand why they hire directors if they dont care about their artistic input...all they want is to play safe specially because audiences are so fucking numb all they want is a copy of a copy. Thats it.
Oh and fucking funko toys.
I'd be on L&M's side if this was their own original concept. In that case, absolutely! Let them have complete control. Let them piss their vision all over everything and everyone; mark their territory and demand obedience. This is different.
If Lord and Miller want to make a gonzo slapstick space comedy, then good on them. They should go make that movie. And if/when they do, they should have complete creative control and freedom.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Screenwriters are worthless dogshit, accept it
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHLoathedVermin72 wrote:Screenwriters are worthless dogshit, accept it
Exactly.Strat wrote:Im all for them to make a star wars movie about a new character or new world within Star Wars. But yes, rearranging a character to fit their mold (which i have a feeling is a very one dimensional approach to story telling) then i say GTFO.durdencommatyler wrote:You and (especially) LV have a director's bias. And there's nothing wrong with that. I can totally understand why you're taking the position you're taking here. I have a writer's bias, admittedly. So, of course, I'm going to side more with Disney here. Because as much as I want a director to have a vision and to be able to exercise their creativity on a project, I also believe that film is collaborative. And the writer's work is important, too. Especially on a project like this. These are established characters in some established worlds. It's far more important to be true to the characters here. To listen to them and let them dictate. To me, that's far more important than whatever wack-a-do concept Lord and Miller may have had. They agreed to join a project that already has established mythology and tradition. I'm fine with expanding that mythology and changing the rules of that tradition but it can't be done in a vacuum.VinylGuy wrote:I agree with LV...They were making their movie, they were working to have whatever they wanted to...I saw Rogue One again and the reshoots en reediting of that mess is so fuckin noticeable i dont understand why they hire directors if they dont care about their artistic input...all they want is to play safe specially because audiences are so fucking numb all they want is a copy of a copy. Thats it.
Oh and fucking funko toys.
I'd be on L&M's side if this was their own original concept. In that case, absolutely! Let them have complete control. Let them piss their vision all over everything and everyone; mark their territory and demand obedience. This is different.
If Lord and Miller want to make a gonzo slapstick space comedy, then good on them. They should go make that movie. And if/when they do, they should have complete creative control and freedom.
Joey, you realize that ¨fresh and exploration¨ is not something that ´ll happen with a brand like SW right? They had that opportunity with Rogue One and they did re shoots and redited the movie because the tone was too dark or something. They even put R2 there.durdencommatyler wrote:Exactly.Strat wrote:Im all for them to make a star wars movie about a new character or new world within Star Wars. But yes, rearranging a character to fit their mold (which i have a feeling is a very one dimensional approach to story telling) then i say GTFO.durdencommatyler wrote:You and (especially) LV have a director's bias. And there's nothing wrong with that. I can totally understand why you're taking the position you're taking here. I have a writer's bias, admittedly. So, of course, I'm going to side more with Disney here. Because as much as I want a director to have a vision and to be able to exercise their creativity on a project, I also believe that film is collaborative. And the writer's work is important, too. Especially on a project like this. These are established characters in some established worlds. It's far more important to be true to the characters here. To listen to them and let them dictate. To me, that's far more important than whatever wack-a-do concept Lord and Miller may have had. They agreed to join a project that already has established mythology and tradition. I'm fine with expanding that mythology and changing the rules of that tradition but it can't be done in a vacuum.VinylGuy wrote:I agree with LV...They were making their movie, they were working to have whatever they wanted to...I saw Rogue One again and the reshoots en reediting of that mess is so fuckin noticeable i dont understand why they hire directors if they dont care about their artistic input...all they want is to play safe specially because audiences are so fucking numb all they want is a copy of a copy. Thats it.
Oh and fucking funko toys.
I'd be on L&M's side if this was their own original concept. In that case, absolutely! Let them have complete control. Let them piss their vision all over everything and everyone; mark their territory and demand obedience. This is different.
If Lord and Miller want to make a gonzo slapstick space comedy, then good on them. They should go make that movie. And if/when they do, they should have complete creative control and freedom.
If no bridges were actually burned on either side, I'd love to see Lord and Miller come back some day and tell their version of a Star Wars story that involves new characters, characters they get to help create and design and takes place in a time/place/land that's fresh and calling for exploration.
Nope. It wasn't fresh or interesting it all. It was edited and reshot to be just like every other Star Wars movie. It offered nothing new. It was a pointless film with no redeeming value. They even put R2 there!LoathedVermin72 wrote:For the record, I absolutely love Rogue One. It's a miracle that movie happened.