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epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to do anything

The Argonaut wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:I like nuance in some areas, dislike it in others; everyone has their own yardstick in terms of how much ambiguity a story should have and where

Yeah. No piece of art is going to please all the people all the time. I was happy with this one, maybe you won't be. That's OK
My only question is why Joe felt the need to be so mean to me about it

Jorge wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:you liked a man loving his pig more than a scene with women teaming up and fighting bad guys "for some reason"? have you ever been around women?

I liked it more too. It's a better scene from a better movie

What Argo is missing is that Endgame is essentially 3 hours of a bunch of high-fives for MCU fans; while that specific moment did feel artificial and awkward, it's in keeping with the rest of the movie. My little sister loved that moment

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Jorge wrote:Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

I'm nervous because I know a LOT of people are gonna want her to be made canon bi in her own show, but I'm not holding my breath

Same.

It seems to matter to Zoe, though. So that's something. Based on some stuff I've heard she really pushed for having some of the shots in the movie taken directly from the comics --- "let's bring this panel to life" etc.

If that's true and if she gets her own spin-off, maybe she'd have some sway. Fingers crossed.

Ms Harmless wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:I like nuance in some areas, dislike it in others; everyone has their own yardstick in terms of how much ambiguity a story should have and where

Yeah. No piece of art is going to please all the people all the time. I was happy with this one, maybe you won't be. That's OK
My only question is why Joe felt the need to be so mean to me about it

oh I'm 100% sure I'll love the movie, but if I have any critiques this will be among them; I think Reeves has done great in a lot of these areas and this one was an oversight, but not a dealbreaker

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Jorge wrote:Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

I'm nervous because I know a LOT of people are gonna want her to be made canon bi in her own show, but I'm not holding my breath

Same.

It seems to matter to Zoe, though. So that's something. Based on some stuff I've heard she really pushed for having some of the shots in the movie taken directly from the comics --- "let's bring this panel to life" etc.

If that's true and if she gets her own spin-off, maybe she'd have some sway. Fingers crossed.

absolutely, Zoe is a national treasure

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to do anything

well that's the truth

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to do anything

well that's the truth

Not really though

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Jorge wrote:Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

I'm nervous because I know a LOT of people are gonna want her to be made canon bi in her own show, but I'm not holding my breath

Same.

It seems to matter to Zoe, though. So that's something. Based on some stuff I've heard she really pushed for having some of the shots in the movie taken directly from the comics --- "let's bring this panel to life" etc.

If that's true and if she gets her own spin-off, maybe she'd have some sway. Fingers crossed.

absolutely, Zoe is a national treasure

Off topic: but did you see her High Fidelity series on Hulu?

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

epilogue wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

Jorge wrote:Selina calls her "my friend" multiple times

I guess friends can and do sleep together

or they may be romantically involved but not sexually; or they may be using "friend" because they don't feel safe to be "out" to others

it could be all sorts of things but I do think the film's refusal to pick a story is a bit of a cop-out

Exactly.

And why? Given the text (the actual film), the only conclusion is that they *wanted* to have it both ways. It's a cop-out and kinda icky.

Still, Kravitz nails the part and I'm really looking forward to a continuation of the story.

I'm nervous because I know a LOT of people are gonna want her to be made canon bi in her own show, but I'm not holding my breath

Same.

It seems to matter to Zoe, though. So that's something. Based on some stuff I've heard she really pushed for having some of the shots in the movie taken directly from the comics --- "let's bring this panel to life" etc.

If that's true and if she gets her own spin-off, maybe she'd have some sway. Fingers crossed.

absolutely, Zoe is a national treasure

Off topic: but did you see her High Fidelity series on Hulu?

I didn't!

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to do anything

well that's the truth

Not really though

jesus argo

Mickey wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:I like movies with nuance and subtleties, movies that leave space for me to think. Is Selina Kyle queer?

I mean, yeah, she is. I watched the movie and friggin duh of course she is

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to have that take, though, right?

It's pretty easy for a straight white dude to do anything

well that's the truth

Not really though

jesus argo

He's right though

The Argonaut wrote:She plays an explicitly bisexual character in that show, and it works great!

BurtReynolds wrote:If there is one thing general MALE audiences hate, it's hot lesbo chicks THAT DON'T CONFORM TO THEIR HETERO FANTASIES ABOUT LESBIANS WHO WANT TO ALSO FUCK THEM .

epilogue wrote:

The Argonaut wrote:She plays an explicitly bisexual character in that show, and it works great!

I'll take missing the point while trying to score easy points for 500, Alex