Red Mosquito

I am just excited that this will all be done within 6 months

isnt that great?

not one

but three vaccines?

that's just fucking great

then this whine festival ends

and it's back to wine festivals

gonna be bacchanal on the streets

Masks don't work

[quote="McParadigm"][quote="simple schoolboy"][quote="McParadigm"]I agree with any feeling that says kicking those people who worked to exacerbate the situation to the front of the line is an injustice....but as a policy it does make sense that government leadership be prioritized.[/quote]

Fauci and his team made it clear early on that masks were ineffective. Clearly we need to do a better job washing our hands, and the administration should prioritize that public outreach message.[/quote]
Who can even guess what this means[/quote]

Lot of bad messaging that went on. You think its untoward that Trump and his ilk get the jab early.

Fauci and his ilk agreed with you about masks early on. Heck, they (and you) may very well be correct unless they are N95 or equivalent.

Of course we never significantly increased N-95 output at a commiserate level, for reasons.

N95 is a totally different story but I see next to nobody wearing those, just spit covered cotton face diapers.

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

simple schoolboy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

simple schoolboy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:I agree with any feeling that says kicking those people who worked to exacerbate the situation to the front of the line is an injustice....but as a policy it does make sense that government leadership be prioritized.

Fauci and his team made it clear early on that masks were ineffective. Clearly we need to do a better job washing our hands, and the administration should prioritize that public outreach message.

Who can even guess what this means

Lot of bad messaging that went on. You think its untoward that Trump and his ilk get the jab early.

Fauci and his ilk agreed with you about masks early on. Heck, they (and you) may very well be correct unless they are N95 or equivalent.

Of course we never significantly increased N-95 output at a commiserate level, for reasons.

Fascinating, but what I said was that it’s good policy to prioritize government leadership when there’s a vaccine available.

If I, by including in that statement an acknowledgement that this administration’s response made things worse than they had to be, compelled you to need a “whatabout” post...maybe ask why.

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

So it's not worth doing anything unless it's 100% effective?

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

Again, no one ever said masks would eradicate the virus all on their own. Stop being so obtuse, you’re embarrassing yourself.

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

Again, no one ever said masks would eradicate the virus all on their own. Stop being so obtuse, you’re embarrassing yourself.

You are absolutely the type of person that goes around saying "if people just wore their masks this would all be over by now!"

This nearly year long thread that started with an ominous tweet from McParadigm is wrapping up with a classic spike/verb to-and-fro on the subject of masks. Who could have predicted it?

McParadigm wrote:Fascinating, but what I said was that it’s good policy to prioritize government leadership when there’s a vaccine available. ...maybe ask why.

Okay, why? There's nothing about Covid that incapacitates a non-high risk person's mental capacity (for 99.99999% of the healthy popluation). For the average person it is the flu. If Biden was mentally incapacitated for two weeks the world will not end. There is plenty of protocol to address this should it ever come to pass.

The only reason I can see to give it to government leadership early is if you think they are incapable of following the CDC guidelines to not spread it. Wear a mask, virtual meetings. Adapt to the circumstances.

Their jobs may be more important than mine but they aren't. They are absolutely replaceable, and in fact we go through a formal process to do that (replace them). We can handle an informal process just as easily. Far too often we accept leaders setting up rules that don't apply to them. Fuck that shit. Biden, you say you're healthy, so wait inline until it is time for someone in your risk factor to get the vaccine. Same for every other government leader.

surfndestroy wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Fascinating, but what I said was that it’s good policy to prioritize government leadership when there’s a vaccine available. ...maybe ask why.

Okay, why? There's nothing about Covid that incapacitates a non-high risk person's mental capacity (for 99.99999% of the healthy popluation). For the average person it is the flu. If Biden was mentally incapacitated for two weeks the world will not end. There is plenty of protocol to address this should it ever come to pass.

The only reason I can see to give it to government leadership early is if you think they are incapable of following the CDC guidelines to not spread it. Wear a mask, virtual meetings. Adapt to the circumstances.

Their jobs may be more important than mine but they aren't. They are absolutely replaceable, and in fact we go through a formal process to do that (replace them). We can handle an informal process just as easily. Far too often we accept leaders setting up rules that don't apply to them. Fuck that shit. Biden, you say you're healthy, so wait inline until it is time for someone in your risk factor to get the vaccine. Same for every other government leader.

i only agree with this because we just spent almost 4 years with a president who was incapacitated for the entire time

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

Again, no one ever said masks would eradicate the virus all on their own. Stop being so obtuse, you’re embarrassing yourself.

You are absolutely the type of person that goes around saying "if people just wore their masks this would all be over by now!"

Nah I actually understand the science.

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

Again, no one ever said masks would eradicate the virus all on their own. Stop being so obtuse, you’re embarrassing yourself.

You are absolutely the type of person that goes around saying "if people just wore their masks this would all be over by now!"

Nah I actually understand the science.

List your credentials as a scientist

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

Seatbelts are better than nothing.

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

spike wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:Masks don't work

explain the results of this study

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... tudy-finds

"Masks are better than nothing"

That doesn't mean masks "work".

Again, no one ever said masks would eradicate the virus all on their own. Stop being so obtuse, you’re embarrassing yourself.

You are absolutely the type of person that goes around saying "if people just wore their masks this would all be over by now!"

Nah I actually understand the science.

List your credentials as a scientist

Produce your diploma from Strawman State first.

off to a great start