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Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 2:51 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Simple Torture wrote:
david80 wrote:ďalej len " Equilibrium " je jeden z mojich najobľúbenejších :)
LV, your rebuttal?
rah!ug applselau! on lait ontiac

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 2:54 pm
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
david80 wrote:ďalej len " Equilibrium " je jeden z mojich najobľúbenejších :)
LV, your rebuttal?
rah!ug applselau! on lait ontiac
Can't you just fucking enjoy something for what it is without being so critical?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 3:08 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
david80 wrote:ďalej len " Equilibrium " je jeden z mojich najobľúbenejších :)
LV, your rebuttal?
rah!ug applselau! on lait ontiac
Can't you just fucking enjoy something for what it is without being so critical?
No, I must lash out whenever I see happiness

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 3:18 pm
by Simple Torture
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
david80 wrote:ďalej len " Equilibrium " je jeden z mojich najobľúbenejších :)
LV, your rebuttal?
rah!ug applselau! on lait ontiac
Can't you just fucking enjoy something for what it is without being so critical?
No, I must lash out whenever I see happiness
It's pretty pompous to tell people when they should feel najobľúbenejších.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Wed March 09, 2016 9:42 pm
by Dev
BurtReynolds wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Witch. Ugh. Sucked. So sick of all this dull "art horror" bullshit.
looks good. Can't wait
yeah no surprise, it was a pretty cool movie.
best movie of the year?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 2:14 am
by LoathedVermin72
Jesus, Everest was fucking harrowing. Man alive.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 2:18 am
by E.H. Ruddock
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Jesus, Everest was fucking harrowing. Man alive.
Yeah

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 3:03 pm
by b_i_revisited
Watched "Children of Men" again. Still great, and more relevant today than it was when it was released.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 3:14 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
b_i_revisited wrote:Watched "Children of Men" again. Still great, and more relevant today than it was when it was released.
love that movie

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 3:46 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 3:47 pm
by ABNorman
Trying to force myself to watch the Hateful Eight. I hate Tarantino, but love westerns. Yay or nay?

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 3:52 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 3:56 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:
ABNorman wrote:Trying to force myself to watch the Hateful Eight. I hate Tarantino, but love westerns. Yay or nay?
I say nay. It's beautifully shot and the dialogue is really good (and the first 3/5 of the film are all dialogue), but the ending is completely gratuitous. This is not a "western" so much as it is a Reservoir Dogs re-hash in a cabin, but minus the heart of Reservoir Dogs.
Ha, the ending is the best part, QT has no eye for scenery, and the dialogue is pretty questionable.

But I wouldn't suggest subjecting yourself to it if you hate QT.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 4:01 pm
by ABNorman
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
ABNorman wrote:Trying to force myself to watch the Hateful Eight. I hate Tarantino, but love westerns. Yay or nay?
I say nay. It's beautifully shot and the dialogue is really good (and the first 3/5 of the film are all dialogue), but the ending is completely gratuitous. This is not a "western" so much as it is a Reservoir Dogs re-hash in a cabin, but minus the heart of Reservoir Dogs.
Ha, the ending is the best part, QT has no eye for scenery, and the dialogue is pretty questionable.

But I wouldn't suggest subjecting yourself to it if you hate QT.
Two against is enough to convince me. Thanks, team.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 4:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 4:11 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
ABNorman wrote:Trying to force myself to watch the Hateful Eight. I hate Tarantino, but love westerns. Yay or nay?
I say nay. It's beautifully shot and the dialogue is really good (and the first 3/5 of the film are all dialogue), but the ending is completely gratuitous. This is not a "western" so much as it is a Reservoir Dogs re-hash in a cabin, but minus the heart of Reservoir Dogs.
Ha, the ending is the best part, QT has no eye for scenery, and the dialogue is pretty questionable.

But I wouldn't suggest subjecting yourself to it if you hate QT.
I won't try to argue the ending or the dialogue -- those things are pretty clearly subjective. But I'm surprised you think he has no eye for scenery. I thought the mountain shots were great, and I loved the shot of JJL catching snowflakes on her tongue with a banged up face. And the Haberdashery was really well staged, with good blocking. It felt like a vital part of the film.
I mean, it certainly wasn't ugly. But you'd have to be a complete imbecile to go to a pretty location and shoot in Super 70 and make something that didn't look at least mildly compelling. But if you compare the cinematography and shot selection in it to what David Lean accomplished with the format, QT is totally out of his depth. The setting and equipment are there, QT just doesn't have the sensibility.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 4:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 4:26 pm
by tommymtcom
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
b_i_revisited wrote:Watched "Children of Men" again. Still great, and more relevant today than it was when it was released.
love that movie
It's one of my favorites.

I really like Everest as well, but yeah, it was super harrowing.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 4:43 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
ABNorman wrote:Trying to force myself to watch the Hateful Eight. I hate Tarantino, but love westerns. Yay or nay?
I say nay. It's beautifully shot and the dialogue is really good (and the first 3/5 of the film are all dialogue), but the ending is completely gratuitous. This is not a "western" so much as it is a Reservoir Dogs re-hash in a cabin, but minus the heart of Reservoir Dogs.
Ha, the ending is the best part, QT has no eye for scenery, and the dialogue is pretty questionable.

But I wouldn't suggest subjecting yourself to it if you hate QT.
I won't try to argue the ending or the dialogue -- those things are pretty clearly subjective. But I'm surprised you think he has no eye for scenery. I thought the mountain shots were great, and I loved the shot of JJL catching snowflakes on her tongue with a banged up face. And the Haberdashery was really well staged, with good blocking. It felt like a vital part of the film.
I mean, it certainly wasn't ugly. But you'd have to be a complete imbecile to go to a pretty location and shoot in Super 70 and make something that didn't look at least mildly compelling. But if you compare the cinematography and shot selection in it to what David Lean accomplished with the format, QT is totally out of his depth. The setting and equipment are there, QT just doesn't have the sensibility.
I don't even know who David Lean is, so you've got a more informed frame of reference here, I think. But I will say that the mountains look like they were shot in my back yard here in MT, and both myself and my buddy thought he captured the expansiveness and beauty really well. There's a TON of mountain footage that I see from around here that is poorly shot -- just 'coz the mountains are in the frame doesn't mean I feel their grandiosity. So I guess that's why I was impressed with that aspect.
The more I think about the visual choices in this movie, the less sense they make. Why did he shoot in such a grand format? What was the point? Nature can be used to do a lot of things in film - to glorify (or even apotheosize) the world or the human condition, or, conversely, to emphasize the absurdity of the human condition (or behavior or failings) - but QT doesn't seem to be doing...anything with it, really? He certainly isn't glorifying anything, and he enjoys wallowing in the muck of sadistic humor too much to be making an existential point about mankind's place in the world. It just seems like a case of "This is how it looked in my head, so I did it." Which is fine, but ultimately quite shallow. And, this being QT, I'm sure format nostalgia is at play, but even that feels ignorant when QT seems to have no real understanding of how or why better filmmakers of yesteryear used the format in the first place.

This is an endlessly frustrating movie for me. I really don't know how to feel about it.

PS: You should do yourself a favor and familiarize yourself with Lean's work. He's one of the all-time greats.

Re: What movies are you watching?

Posted: Thu March 10, 2016 5:10 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
tragabigzanda wrote:Children of Men is great, I should watch it again.

I watched Spike Lee's The 25th Hour. Hadn't seen it since it first came out. It's fantastic -- probably in my top five Spike Lee films. The whole cast is excellent, but Ed Norton and Barry Pepper make the movie for me.
barry pepper is underrated