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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Wed March 04, 2020 3:24 pm
by VinylGuy
I remember being so fucking happy when i discovered those books. When i found the first book from the new trilogy i was just ....ecstatic.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 6:13 pm
by VinylGuy
So in the book they also tell the story of rey´s father, an imperfect clone of Palps.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 6:17 pm
by Monkey_Driven
VinylGuy wrote:So in the book they also tell the story of rey´s father, an imperfect clone of Palps.
Somehow, this just gets worse and worse.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 6:35 pm
by VinylGuy
its getting stupider for sure.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 6:46 pm
by epilogue
Without actually reading it, I think, in general, the more clones the better. Ties things together better. But like always, it's all about execution.
Palatine's soon being a clone is so much more interesting and less messy/icky than thinking he fucked.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 6:53 pm
by VinylGuy
its a really stupid idea. But i dont really care for it, it wasnt even hinted in all three movies of this so, who cares.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 7:00 pm
by Anders
Haven’t read the book, trashes it in every post.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 7:13 pm
by dimejinky99
Emmmm ... doesn’t..wouldnt... wouldn’t the clones have to have accellerated growth to get to Palps age? Or did he pick one as his son? How did it escape?
I had been thinking Well for sure get more on this but this was that chance I guess
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 7:34 pm
by VinylGuy
dimejinky99 wrote:Emmmm ... doesn’t..wouldnt... wouldn’t the clones have to have accellerated growth to get to Palps age? Or did he pick one as his son? How did it escape?
I had been thinking Well for sure get more on this but this was that chance I guess
seems he was a clone, but not thaaat close..something like that. No idea on how he escaped. Maybe the book has a few chapters on him?
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 7:42 pm
by dimejinky99
You mean read it and get the full context rather than just posting stuff ive heard about it in some click bait headline?
That’s a radical idea. New thinking! Imight just do it. Thanks vg
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 7:46 pm
by VinylGuy
Im sorry i offended you guys.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 7:46 pm
by VinylGuy
but there is no way im reading that, even if its as good as Empire.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 8:18 pm
by dimejinky99
I’m just pulling your leg.
I don’t feel any great impetus to read it either.
I really like the novelisations. Tlj particularly adds so much.
This one though the film is so packed and Saturday morning Flash Gordon serial I’m not sure how it would read.
The author is extremely talented though so I’ll over to it sometime
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 8:25 pm
by VinylGuy
Dont you feel that if they expand Palps too much is almost as joke? I get that they tell Kylo´s encounter a little bit different, and the clone thing...but rey´ kiss? Palps kid being a clone?
Feels too much.
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 9:12 pm
by Strat
During the scene in the Rise of Skywalker novelization when Rey is feigning taking part in the Sith Ritual on Exegol to trick Palpatine (right before she passes the lightsaber to Ben), she has visions of her grandfather's past. This passage in the book reveals after Return of the Jedi, Palpatine "thrust his consciousness" into a clone body. However, "the transfer was imperfect" and members of the Sith Eternal worked tirelessly to engineer a new vessel for Palpatine's essence. One of these attempts is described as "a useless, powerless failure" who was "a not-quite-identical clone." While this body wasn't fit to house Palpatine's power, it was still able to live and eventually became Rey's father.
Back in January, Rise of Skywalker editor Maryann Brandon revealed they cut additional Palpatine backstory in an effort to condense the film, and it's possible this information is what she was referring to. Brandon had mentioned that initially the movie got more in depth into "what was keeping Palpatine alive." And it's been confirmed the Rise of Skywalker script included a line about Palpatine being a clone. While it's understandable why the Rise of Skywalker creative team would want to keep things moving and economically find a way around the topic of Palpatine's return, a case can be made it would have been good to include some of this in the film. It may have cleared up questions some people had. Palpatine's role in Rise of Skywalker received criticism in some circles for coming across as sudden and tacked on within the context of the sequel trilogy. His past between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens could have been fleshed out.
oh my god this is so dumb and actually makes me hate the movie and JJ all together.
I haven't watched it since the theater so we'll see once i can again but wow. They should have not tried to flesh it out more outside of the movie.
Just a major fail in storytelling all together. Really should have been able to close this out much tighter than they did.
Also, im bitter and angry right now so...
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 9:15 pm
by LoathedVermin72
You guys are looking at this dumbass movie all wrong
EMBRACE THE STUPIDITY AND EXCESS YOU BABIES
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 9:31 pm
by dimejinky99
LoathedVermin72 wrote:You guys are looking at this dumbass movie all wrong
EMBRACE THE STUPIDITY AND EXCESS YOU BABIES
LV and I just agreed about Star Wars.
This will be a day long remembered...
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Thu March 05, 2020 9:58 pm
by wease
Palpatine has a 99-er
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Fri March 06, 2020 10:11 am
by dimejinky99
I don’t understand that reference
Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Posted: Fri March 06, 2020 11:01 am
by Anders
99 was a clone that didn't work right, just like Rey's father.