Red Mosquito

Black lives matter! Blue lives matter! All lives matter! Nope....
Sorry folks, we don't really believe any of that. Our lives matter. Our immediate family's lives matter. Our friend's lives matter somewhat. Co-workers, a bit.
What about Iraqi children walking past a high value target? No. Anyone in an Isis controlled area? No. Low wage workers including child labor to make our colorful high tech wonder clothing and phones who may work around dangerous substances and in structurally deficient buildings? No. What about the 200+ people who died in the Turkish airport attacks last week? I've already forgotten them. What about just Americans? We care about their lives right? How many million children live in poverty here? 30 million or so don't get enough to eat supposedly. So we don't care about them much. What about other drivers? When we get in a rush or every single time we look at our phones their lives don't matter. Slow down and save a life while in a construction zone? Certainly not. I don't and if I'm not driving somewhere I'm standing in one every day. The list is pretty long. 60%+ of Americans agreed that should a passenger plane get hijacked again it should be shot down before it can kill more people. Very few lives matter. That's our actual slogan.

theplatypus wrote:

Peeps wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:In a free society, the notion of people who are supposed to protect us and uphold our laws potentially resorting to violence if we're not respectful is insane and unacceptable. End of story.

i feel bad you think this is the end of the story

You don't disagree with that statement though, right? Seems like a no-brainer to me

Peeps wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Peeps wrote:a host from cnn or some station who is african american was saying he now has to answer no sir yes sir when talking to a cop and that he shouldnt have to

he is right, he shouldnt have to but what happened to showing respect?

a cop pulls me over i say yes sir no sir

i see someone elderly struggling to reach something on a shelf i have stopped and said let me help you sir/ma'am

talking to people who are older than and i dont know their name i address them as sir or ma'am

not because i am scared for my life but because i show respect to those who deserve it

Is politeness relevant here? Who cares?

Yeah, out of all the ugly shit that went down how is this even a fucking topic?

an african american saying he "has" to be polite to a police officer to me is insane. you should have to be, you should be.

think about it, are you more likely to get out of a ticket by being nice or being a dick? thats just a ticket, if it escalates more pushing the cops buttons is only going to elevate his aggressiveness more.

im not saying roll over and show him your belly but id say in most cases (not the minnesota one) if you are cordial they will be cordial right back

cutuphalfdead wrote:I know plenty of white people who don't know how to talk to cops respectfully. Usually it just means they get a ticket instead of a warning. None of them have been shot.

Strat wrote:

Peeps wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Peeps wrote:a host from cnn or some station who is african american was saying he now has to answer no sir yes sir when talking to a cop and that he shouldnt have to

he is right, he shouldnt have to but what happened to showing respect?

a cop pulls me over i say yes sir no sir

i see someone elderly struggling to reach something on a shelf i have stopped and said let me help you sir/ma'am

talking to people who are older than and i dont know their name i address them as sir or ma'am

not because i am scared for my life but because i show respect to those who deserve it

Is politeness relevant here? Who cares?

Yeah, out of all the ugly shit that went down how is this even a fucking topic?

an african american saying he "has" to be polite to a police officer to me is insane. you should have to be, you should be.

think about it, are you more likely to get out of a ticket by being nice or being a dick? thats just a ticket, if it escalates more pushing the cops buttons is only going to elevate his aggressiveness more.

im not saying roll over and show him your belly but id say in most cases (not the minnesota one) if you are cordial they will be cordial right back

The point you are missing, peeps, is often times they are polite. St. Paul the guy did everything as asked, even told him about his concealed to carry. he was shot dead.

Bi_3 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

Peeps wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:In a free society, the notion of people who are supposed to protect us and uphold our laws potentially resorting to violence if we're not respectful is insane and unacceptable. End of story.

i feel bad you think this is the end of the story

You don't disagree with that statement though, right? Seems like a no-brainer to me

The thing is that what LV said is an oversimplification of things and not when happens in the real world. Specifically as he worded it, yes, not smiling at a cop or not saying "sir" is no justification for violence. But remmebr the officer has no idea if you are freind or foe at the time of the stop and disrespecting, antagonizing, or even taunting during a stop is going to further escalate what is already a tense situation and helps neither side. Showing cops the same amount of respect you would show to some on the street when you need directions is really not a lot to ask.

theplatypus wrote:

Peeps wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:In a free society, the notion of people who are supposed to protect us and uphold our laws potentially resorting to violence if we're not respectful is insane and unacceptable. End of story.

i feel bad you think this is the end of the story

You don't disagree with that statement though, right? Seems like a no-brainer to me

LoathedVermin72 wrote:It's a pipe dream to expect law enforcement to be rational, professional, and responsible? What the fuck?

Bi_3 wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:It's a pipe dream to expect law enforcement to be rational, professional, and responsible? What the fuck?

I would suggest that in the vast, overwhelming majority of cases, they are, in fact, exactly that.