Red Mosquito

Lament has a point, Jorge.

LOOK EVERYONE I'M DISAGREEING WITH THEPLATYPUS

This was the exchange I was remembering, and no one bothered to suggest any other interpretation.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 49#p352749

Birds in Hell wrote:

numbers wrote:

Lament wrote:I think it should go by whenever the song first appeared, in any region, whether on album or single. If the single preceded the album, then the single release date. If the album came first, then the album release date. But either way, whenever it was made commercially available for purchase. So a song like Train in Vain, which was a single in February of 1980, would not be allowed since London Calling came out in December of 1979.

I second this.

Me too.

bada wrote:I go back in time and first this.

durdencommatyler wrote:Not sure why Lament didn't just second me. We said the same thing!

Sorry, I just can't bring myself to disagree with Jorge.

That made sense at the time, but let's be real, the song is from the 90s.

I see no confirmation from the person who's running the tourney, so... ?

The version I want was released in the 90s, regardless of whether the general public could buy it. This debate is dumb.

So I can't pick something from Prince's Black Album for the 90s now?

shit, lament has a point there

theplatypus wrote:I see no confirmation from the person who's running the tourney, so... ?

I see no explanation that advanced promos count as official releases either, so what's your point?

Look, I said if Stip wants to rule it that, then that's fine, but it's not like your interpretation was written out verbatim somewhere beforehand either, so don't act like it was.

this is the best thing that's happened all day

My intention was for the first 'official' appearance of the song. Live versions would be tricky, but a studio version that was pressed and at least partially distributed seems legit. I wasn't splitting hairs when I read the world commercial in your post, even though there is a definite meaning behind that word that would make you technically correct. Basically when the song first appeared was the intent, and Platy's pick seems in line with that.



What's the problem with the black album, lament?

I'm off to bed. Can I send some proxy votes to someone?

Lament wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I see no confirmation from the person who's running the tourney, so... ?

I see no explanation that advanced promos count as official releases either, so what's your point?

Look, I said if Stip wants to rule it that, then that's fine, but it's not like your interpretation was written out verbatim somewhere beforehand either, so don't act like it was.

My interpretation is based on the term "official release", which is what Stip has stated repeatedly across multiple threads. Does it stick in your craw that much that I have the version that was originally released of the song, even if just as a promo?

From the little that I know of the Prince situation, it could've been an 80s pick.

Jorge has a point.

stip wrote:What's the problem with the black album, lament?

It was the intended follow-up to Sign "O" the Times in late 1987. Warner Bros. printed it up, sent it out for reviews, and then the night before it was supposed to be shipped for commercial release Prince demanded all existing copies destroyed, and it never came out. It was then commercially released in 1994.

I have a song from it on my list, but I'll take it off.

While I agree with Jorge, I actually prefer the non-Elvis version of that song.

theplatypus wrote:Does it stick in your craw that much that I have the version that was originally released of the song, even if just as a promo?

No, it doesn't "stick in my craw." It happens to be a situation similar to a song I was strongly considering picking which exists under fairly similar circumstances. I had been operating under the assumption that I could take it in this tournament. Obviously I can't.

the great board schism of 2014

Lament wrote:

stip wrote:What's the problem with the black album, lament?

It was the intended follow-up to Sign "O" the Times in late 1987. Warner Bros. printed it up, sent it out for reviews, and then the night before it was supposed to be shipped for commercial release Prince demanded all existing copies destroyed, and it never came out. It was then commercially released in 1994.

I have a song from it on my list, but I'll take it off.

nah, take it. I think these are grey enough areas that whoever gets to the song first is fine.

stip wrote:

Lament wrote:

stip wrote:What's the problem with the black album, lament?

It was the intended follow-up to Sign "O" the Times in late 1987. Warner Bros. printed it up, sent it out for reviews, and then the night before it was supposed to be shipped for commercial release Prince demanded all existing copies destroyed, and it never came out. It was then commercially released in 1994.

I have a song from it on my list, but I'll take it off.

nah, take it. I think these are grey enough areas that whoever gets to the song first is fine.

pragmatism ftw!

Lament wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Does it stick in your craw that much that I have the version that was originally released of the song, even if just as a promo?

No, it doesn't "stick in my craw." It happens to be a situation similar to a song I was strongly considering picking which exists under fairly similar circumstances. I had been operating under the assumption that I could take it in this tournament. Obviously I can't.

Makes sense. For the record though, if you had decided to pick a song from that Prince album, and if I had known before 10 minutes ago that it was a promo release in the 80s, I wouldn't have said anything. Because who the hell cares.