Red Mosquito

Mickey wrote:

One of my favorite islands, for sure.

Given the number of people crossing that border, it is a figurative island, if not a literal one.

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

B wrote:

Mickey wrote:

One of my favorite islands, for sure.

Given the number of people crossing that border, it is a figurative island, if not a literal one.

Anything can be an island if you work hard and you have the right attitude

B wrote:

Mickey wrote:

One of my favorite islands, for sure.

Given the number of people crossing that border, it is a figurative island, if not a literal one.

Exactly, but Mickey gets so few wins lets give him this one.

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

Bi_3 wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

On January 14th, the WHO issued their notorious and ultimately inaccurate statement about the emerging COVID threat.

Seven days later, a halfwit Pearl Jam fan started this thread with the opening question "This thing kills us y/n?"

Was it absurd and wrong for the WHO to mirror Chinese official reports unskeptically? Obviously.

Is the premise that nations around the world looked at the last 65 years of Chinese government messaging and behaviors and concluded that "if they say everything is fine then everything is fine," incredibly stupid? Yes. The potential for danger and likelihood of a cover-up was not less evident to world governments than they were to a bunch of asshats who listened to Can't Deny Me on purpose.

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

lol for real

McParadigm wrote:a halfwit Pearl Jam fan

don't be so hard on yourself

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

McParadigm wrote:a halfwit Pearl Jam fan

don't be so hard on yourself

Yeah we've all liked Pearl Jam from time to time.

My wife has been bestowed the blessed opportunity to have the holy elixir delivered unto her impure flesh!! She will be saved!!

Norris wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

lol for real

Seriously. Who is so desperate to try and disprove something that they deconstruct the most broad interpretation and attack that instead of the core idea?

Bi_3 wrote:

Norris wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

lol for real

Seriously. Who is so desperate to try and disprove something that they deconstruct the most broad interpretation and attack that instead of the core idea?

Heretics!! That's who!! Damn them to the eternal ventilator!!

All I’m saying is just Google countries with the best Covid responses and you’ll see at least half of them are islands. There are multiple reasons for that, but the ability to control the flow of people is the most important.

verb_to_trust wrote:My wife has been bestowed the blessed opportunity to have the holy elixir delivered unto her impure flesh!! She will be saved!!

What a refreshing take on things

Bi_3 wrote:

Norris wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

lol for real

Seriously. Who is so desperate to try and disprove something that they deconstruct the most broad interpretation and attack that instead of the core idea?

Read your posts bro.

Also probably pick up an atlas.

Do we think that verb thinks he's being smart or funny? Or both? Mods, can we get a poll?

Bi_3 wrote:

Norris wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

spike wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:

spike wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Peeps wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:"But also its the Covid-19 virus that the WHO downplayed in order to protect China."

Even if that's true, at this point, hundreds of thousands of deaths are on our own hands at this point. If we'd have gotten a two month heads up, we could have been doing jack shit in January instead of doing jack shit in March.

Bro, there are literally 190+ countries other than China and the US that could have used that information to protect their citizens.

while true how come countries like NZ and Australia have returned to some semblance of normal? sure if we had been warned ahead of time with a normal administration the US (and other countries) could have been out ahead of it. the fact that our administration downplayed everything and blatantly lied about it certainly didnt help

Our problem was/is Trump, no question. But when you look at the globalized nations that have done well (Aus, NZ, Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore) they have something in common beyond competent leaders... they are islands and thus can control human flow better than the EU or the Americas

The UK is an island.

An island that handed over border control to the EU. Possibly that was a driving force behind Brexit.

Right, it’s the policies of those controlling the borders, and nothing to do with geography then.

Well, I mean, it’s easier to implement border control policies when there is miles and miles of ocean between you and your nearest neighbor.

lol for real

Seriously. Who is so desperate to try and disprove something that they deconstruct the most broad interpretation and attack that instead of the core idea?

Except when he played along (see: the UK) you essentially ceded the argument by acknowledging it's not geography but the people holding the levers of power that matter. And then you went right back to moving the goalposts on the definition of island. But you do you.

Simple Torture wrote:Do we think that verb thinks he's being smart or funny? Or both? Mods, can we get a poll?

Nah, he just knows it annoys people.