Of course it is. But it would disingenuous to say that an air strike is the same as a ground invasion.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon June 24, 2019 3:37 am
by Green Habit
Two things can be true:
1) The Iraq policies of both the Clinton and Dubya administrations were humanitarian disasters.
2) Dubya's Iraq policy was more of a humanitarian disaster than Clinton's was.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon June 24, 2019 5:01 am
by BurtReynolds
Green Habit wrote:rUn FoR sEnAtE
Oh wait, he can't do so in PA until 2022, and they likely wouldn't want him to run anyway. So we need some other reason to go after this guy.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon June 24, 2019 10:21 am
by Bi_3
Green Habit wrote:Two things can be true:
1) The Iraq policies of both the Clinton and Dubya administrations were humanitarian disasters.
2) Dubya's Iraq policy was more of a humanitarian disaster than Clinton's was.
Where do you think you are right now?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon June 24, 2019 12:30 pm
by B
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon June 24, 2019 1:49 pm
by Green Habit
In response to Bee, maybe someone like her will be an even better candidate than someone like Beto.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Mon June 24, 2019 1:49 pm
by Green Habit
Bi_3 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:Two things can be true:
1) The Iraq policies of both the Clinton and Dubya administrations were humanitarian disasters.
2) Dubya's Iraq policy was more of a humanitarian disaster than Clinton's was.
Where do you think you are right now?
No clue...
Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 5:09 pm
by B
Better get this in before the first debate!
1. Kamala Harris (Senator, CA)
2. Elizabeth Warren (Senator, MA)
3. Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator, NY)
4. Cory Booker (Senator, NJ)
5. Amy Klobuchar (Senator, MN)
6. Bernie Sanders (Sentator, VT)
7. Tulsi Gabbard (Representative, HI)
8. Joe Biden (Former VP)
9. Tim Ryan (Representative, OH)
10. Beto O’Rourke (Former Rep., TX)
11. Pete Buttigieg (Mayor, South Bend, IN)
12. Julián Castro (Former Obama Housing Chief)
13. John Hickenlooper (Former Gov., CO)
14. Bill de Blasio (Mayor, NYC)
15. Andrew Yang (Businessman)
I am unaware of any facts about the following.
Michael Bennet (Senator, CO)
Steve Bullock (Governor, MT)
John Delaney (Former Rep., MD)
Mike Gravel (Former Sen., AK)
Jay Inslee (Governor, WA)
Wayne Messam (Mayor, Miramar, FL)
Seth Moulton (Representative, MA)
Joe Sestak (Former Rep., PA)
Eric Swalwell (Representative, CA)
Marianne Williamson (Author)
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 5:18 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 5:38 pm
by PHATJ
They are all awful.
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 5:58 pm
by Norah
tragabigzanda wrote:1. Elizabeth Warren
2. Everyone else
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 6:00 pm
by Rob
My tier 1: Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg
My tier 2: Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, Andrew Yang
I don't feel anything for the rest so far. I like Joe Biden but not as a presidential candidate.
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 6:14 pm
by BurtReynolds
Tulsi
Yang
Sanders
Everyone else
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 6:17 pm
by BurtReynolds
If Trump were to win again, could we see upwards of fifty Republican and Democrat candidates in the next election?
I feel like this is the start of a trend...
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 6:18 pm
by Green Habit
Whoever can beat Trump. After that, don't care that much.
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 7:42 pm
by Mickey
1. Sanders
2. Warren
3. Gillibrand (huge drop-off here)
4. Buttigieg (primarily because of his father)
5. Harris
Those are the only five I would even consider doing any get out the vote work for, and really the question for me is between the first two. Beyond that, there's the detestable Mitt Romney Republican crew of Biden, Beto, etc, the single-issue psychos like Moulton, the completely indistinguishable white guys who should merge into one super-candidate (Bullock, Bennett, Swalwell, Hickenlooper, Ryan), and a couple of no-chance weirdos (of which Gravel and Gabbard are by far the best on certain issues). Biden, Booker, and Delaney seem to be the worst right now but that's really anyone's game.
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 7:51 pm
by Peeps
warren, harris and a very distant third is sanders
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 7:52 pm
by Mickey
Peeps wrote:warren, harris and a very distant third is sanders
Explain this logic to me. Sanders and Warren have very similar politics. Why does Harris come between them?
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 8:38 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Rank the 2020 Democratic Candidates
Posted: Tue June 25, 2019 8:58 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:1. Elizabeth Warren
2. Everyone else