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Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 4:45 am
by Jorge
Anyone here following the news? It's pretty fucked.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 4:46 am
by Norah
Only in soundbites. Give me the skinny.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 4:53 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Venezuela's capital, Caracas, has seen almost daily demonstrations in recent weeks, some of which have turned violent. Critics are accusing President Nicolas Maduro of moving towards a dictatorship, and want him to resign. But Maduro says the opposition is conspiring with foreign entities, specifically the US, to destabilise the country.
On July 30, Venezuelans were called on to choose the members of a new National Constituent Assembly that will be tasked with drafting a new constitution. President Nicolas Maduro claimed victory in the election, which he says will help save the country from political and economic disaster.
Colombia, Mexico, Peru and other nations joined the US in saying they did not recognise the results of Sunday's election. However, old allies Bolivia, Cuba, Nicaragua and Russia stood by Maduro. The country is in the middle of a crippling economic crisis that has led to high food prices and a lack of basic goods. Maduro says the economic crisis is due to a US-backed capitalist conspiracy.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 5:12 am
by BurtReynolds
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Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 5:23 am
by simple schoolboy
Venezuela would need oil to go to something like $200/ barrel in order to be solvent. Even during the boom years they overspent.
I did enjoy the economist I heard on the radio using terms like "neo-liberalism" and "austerity" as slurs, seeming to imply there's a reasonable middle way for a country in Venezuela's position.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 5:31 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
The main Venezuela thread from the old board:
http://archive.theskyiscrape.com/viewto ... 91971e22ec
RM user jurd99 used to post in that, he lives there. I hope he is still around somewhere.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 5:32 pm
by Strat
So nations are lining up together for WW3, yea?
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 03, 2017 11:38 pm
by Bi_3
This seems like an opportunity for the US to repair relations there. Ship food, medicine, etc. through relief organizations in neighboring countries and ask for nothing in return. But we will probably just levy more sanctions.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 12:57 am
by Simple Torture
My wife used to work for an international law program, and when students were accepted, they had to present proof of funding or they wouldn't be officially admitted. So if they were being sponsored by their law firm (very common, especially with students from China) they'd get official documentation, or if the students were independently wealthy (many were, or they were successful lawyers looking to work in American law) they had to provide bank account information to show that they had the funds available in their account. This was a non-negotioable rule, except for students from Venezuela: the first few times students made a deposit in their account to show that they could pay for a semester abroad, the government confiscated all of their funds. There was an understanding that the students would smuggle cash into the US and pay their bills on the first day in cash so that it wouldn't get taken away.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 1:01 am
by Jorge
Fucking Chavez. Fucking Maduro. I can't believe how badly they fucked over that beautiful country. I feel really badly for all my Venezuelan friends. Latin American socialism is such a cesspool of corruption.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 2:27 am
by VinylGuy
Poor Venezuela.
I been there for a few months, some years ago...we shoot a big commercial...it was a blast. People are so kind there, but at the same time you could already tell how divided the country is....i guess their actual crisis is a pretty big an difficult one because of all of the different parties involved.
Hope they can pull through.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 2:34 am
by ---
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom ... en-america
These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 2:48 am
by ---
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:The country is in the middle of a crippling economic crisis that has led to high food prices and a lack of basic goods. Maduro says the economic crisis is due to a US-backed capitalist conspiracy.
huh so 21st century socialism looks a lot like 20th century socialism
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 2:09 pm
by Jorge
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Fri August 04, 2017 2:19 pm
by 4/5
--- wrote:https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america
These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who's the banana republic now?
So basically Bernie Sanders is what would happen if Anti-Flag were a senator.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Sun August 06, 2017 7:39 pm
by Green Habit
Here was a thread he started. I really hope he's OK with all that's happened since then.
http://archive.theskyiscrape.com/viewto ... =7&t=43687
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Sun August 06, 2017 10:23 pm
by bart
I enjoy how that thread quickly devolved into g_v lecturing people from Venezuela about their own country. What a guy he was.
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 3:13 am
by ---
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venez ... AW2A1?il=0
Opposition candidates running in Venezuela's October gubernatorial elections will be investigated to make sure none were involved in violent political protests this year, the head of a new pro-government truth commission said on Wednesday. Also before the assembly is a bill that would punish those who express "hate or intolerance" with up 25 years in jail...
"Whoever goes into the streets to express intolerance and hatred, will be captured and will be tried and punished with sentences of 15, 20, 25 years of jail," Maduro said last week...
"We have decided to ask the CNE to send a complete list of gubernatorial candidates to the truth commission in order to determine if any of the them were involved in incidents of violence," (Maduro loyalist Delcy) Rodriguez told the assembly, stressing this would have a "cleansing effect" on Venezuela.
what a fucking dump this country is
Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 17, 2017 6:14 am
by BurtReynolds
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Re: Venezuela
Posted: Thu August 24, 2017 2:04 am
by 96583UP