Bleed the Freak is a solid facelift song. But Meladori Magpie is lovely, sad, playful, and surprising. One of my favorite Pumpkins songs. If you're not familiar with it it's worth a listen.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
I was originally on-board with including SP in this contest, but the deeper we get the more I regret that collective decision we made. Too many of their songs are pop or metal, and don't sound anything like the other bands.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:27 pm
by Self
THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM SEATTLE
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:30 pm
by malice
Self wrote:THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM SEATTLE
so far i haven't found much that stands up to the subject of best of grunge whatever span of years :/
and grunge is a terrible label
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 3:44 pm
by Self
malice wrote:
Self wrote:THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM SEATTLE
so far i haven't found much that stands up to the subject of best of grunge whatever span of years :/
and grunge is a terrible label
Grunge just means flannel, cargo shorts, and doc martens.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 4:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
Self wrote:
malice wrote:
Self wrote:THEY'RE NOT EVEN FROM SEATTLE
so far i haven't found much that stands up to the subject of best of grunge whatever span of years :/
and grunge is a terrible label
Grunge just means flannel, cargo shorts, and doc martens.
I really liked that scene in Hype when the guitarist says "This is punk," then plays a bunch of slide-up power chord riffs; then he says "This is grunge," and does the same thing but slides down the neck. I thought that was pretty succinct and accurate.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 4:53 pm
by Jammer XCI
Screaming Trees isn't in the contest either.
And this is such an easy vote for Bleed the Freak
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 5:39 pm
by washing machine
The name Meladori Magpie always made me think of Radiohead, even before they put the word Magpie in a song. The slide guitars on this one are great. I think a lot of what I listen to regularly is closer in spirit to SP than AIC, and this song is a good example of that. Not even close for me. Meladori Magpie is true blue.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 5:47 pm
by LoathedVermin72
SP never made a metal song, trag.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:00 pm
by bada
As soon as I saw Targ said metal I braced myself for the what is metal discussion.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:02 pm
by washing machine
AND INTO THE EYES OF THE JACKAL I SAY KA-BOOM
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:03 pm
by tragabigzanda
LoathedVermin72 wrote:SP never made a metal song, trag.
No, but I just mean their guitar tones and riffs are often more metal than grunge.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:04 pm
by LoathedVermin72
washing machine wrote:AND INTO THE EYES OF THE JACKAL I SAY KA-BOOM
I love when Corgan does those little a capella sections in heavy songs. That one and "The Everlasting Gaze" come to mind. Two of my favorite SP moments, for sure.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:05 pm
by LoathedVermin72
tragabigzanda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:SP never made a metal song, trag.
No, but I just mean their guitar tones and riffs are often more metal than grunge.
Oh yeah they definitely aren't grunge. Maybe Gish, but that's about it.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:21 pm
by washing machine
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
washing machine wrote:AND INTO THE EYES OF THE JACKAL I SAY KA-BOOM
I love when Corgan does those little a capella sections in heavy songs. That one and "The Everlasting Gaze" come to mind. Two of my favorite SP moments, for sure.
For sure. It's always felt tongue-in-cheek "metal" to me, which reminded me to post that here.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 6:36 pm
by PHATJ
I'm super glad Smashing Pumpkins are in this tournament, but I'm voting Bleed the Freak here.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 7:12 pm
by doone
stip wrote:If you're not familiar with it it's worth a listen.
It was worth a listen but it's not grungy.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 7:51 pm
by Jammer XCI
Re: Smashing Pumpkins metal, I'd say XYU and Tales of the Scorched Earth are pretty metal. Geek USA kind of. It's not actually metal but it's close.
Re: 22. Bleed the Freak vs. Meladori Magpie
Posted: Fri August 18, 2017 8:03 pm
by Anders
Bleed The Freak is not a bad song. One of the better early AiC songs.