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R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Thu July 12, 2018 11:42 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Deftones - "Minerva"


Smile Empty Soul - "Bottom of a Bottle"

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 12:10 am
by LoathedVermin72
BOAB isn't the worst song in this tournament but "Minerva" is fucking transcendent. A gorgeous piece of music and one of my all-time favorite songs.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 12:12 am
by i got bugs
God bless you all

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 1:08 am
by Jammer XCI
Minerva is basically a shoegaze song.

Deftones by the distance from Earth to Pluto for this one, I forgot all about Smile Empty Soul until now.

Real Smile Empty Soul lyrics: “You’re the ones who fuck your kids”

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 1:05 pm
by bada
Deftones are awesome. I don't know if they are really Nu Metal or just associates but they should win the entire thing.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 1:11 pm
by mf
It's weird that these two songs are matched up let alone in the same tournament. Never heard of Smile Empty Soul before. Looking at their wikipedia page now and I see why. These guys might have wandered into my radar if they were around in the late 90's, but in the mid-2000's? not a chance. Pretty generic tune.

Minerva by as wide a margin as i can possibly give.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 4:48 pm
by Brett
I recognized the name of Smile Empty Soul and the title of "Bottom of a Bottle," but I didn't remember what the song sounded like until I listened. A weird little mix of pop-punk, post-grunge, and nu-metal. Altogether not an awful little tune, but nothing special either.

When "Minerva" was a single making the rounds I hoped to hear it get played every time I was in the car with the radio on. It was one of my favorite songs of the time period, heavy and beautiful at the same time. In listening to it again for this round, I'm definitely getting the shoegaze nods that a few people have alluded to. I mean, it sounds like a freaking Jesu song, and it got radio airplay. It's definitely one of my favorites to win this tournament.

Obviously, my vote is going with Deftones again.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:12 pm
by Kevin Davis
I've never heard either of these before. "Minerva" is pretty okay -- it radiates that late-'90's-early-'00's-radio-rock sameyness that all this music does, but there are a lot of elements that appeal to me too. Some cool guitar chords, and definitely a nice shoegazey vibe. What is some other Deftones music that is more like this and less like "Shove It"?

The Smile Empty Soul song sucks butt.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:12 pm
by Jammer XCI
Most of the post-White Pony Deftones sounds similar.

Speaking of Jesu too, I’ve maintained that mid-period Godflesh from Songs of Love and Hate to Hymns sounds nu-metal as fuck.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:17 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Kevin Davis wrote:I've never heard either of these before. "Minerva" is pretty okay -- it radiates that late-'90's-early-'00's-radio-rock sameyness that all this music does, but there are a lot of elements that appeal to me too. Some cool guitar chords, and definitely a nice shoegazey vibe. What is some other Deftones music that is more like this and less like "Shove It"?

The Smile Empty Soul song sucks butt.
One of my favorite Deftones songs


Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:19 pm
by Jammer XCI
Chino + Serj = non-nu, who woulda thought.

Try “Tempest” or “Combat” too.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:23 pm
by LoathedVermin72
And “Hole in the Earth”

You might like Team Sleep more than Deftones, KD

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:31 pm
by Jorge
"Sextape" is my favorite Deftones song

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:32 pm
by LoathedVermin72
theplatypus wrote:"Sextape" is my favorite Deftones song
You should listen to “Pink Cellphone”

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 5:37 pm
by bodysnatcher
not a deftones fan

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 6:16 pm
by bada
Digital Bath is easily my fav Deftones.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 6:16 pm
by LoathedVermin72
bada wrote:Digital Bath is easily my fav Deftones.
Me too

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 7:00 pm
by bodysnatcher
decided to give Deftones another shot bc i haven't in so long. and immediately stumbled across their cover of "Drive" :thumbsup:

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 7:44 pm
by chewm
Minerva is so good. I really should get more into Deftones. I've enjoyed all of their tracks so far except for Back to School I guess. Change (in the house of flies) is probably my favorite song in this tournament.

Re: R1: Minerva vs. Bottom of a Bottle

Posted: Fri July 13, 2018 7:56 pm
by bodysnatcher
chewm wrote:Change (in the house of flies) is probably my favorite song in this tournament.
O that song is in this tourney? Psh, i'll just push all my votes its way now.