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Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 1:40 am
by Jorge


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Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 1:54 am
by Jorge
I know it's going to get crushed, but I'm gonna go to bat for "Helena". I think it's a very hooky song with a really good melody, nice harmonies, strong performances all around and a massive, lumbering half-time singalong chorus. It's overdramatic and ridiculous but, sort of like "Bring Me to Life" did, it actually works for me.

"Santeria" is an unfairly derided song that I'm not crazy about but is nowhere near as offensively bad as you would think from how often it gets trashed. Still, I'm gonna go with the big emo cryfest on this one.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 1:56 am
by PHATJ
I’m a big fan of Helena.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 2:00 am
by Kevin Davis
I loved "Santeria" back in the day. I have no long-term interest in Sublime but Bradley Nowell was pretty clearly a guy with a lot of potential; he had an effortless knack for melody and an easygoing, elastic voice with a lot of soul in it. His whole presentation hasn't aged well, but bands like MCR are simply outside my register -- there is absolutely zilch musically, sonically, emotionally, or lyrically that I connect with. Sublime it is.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 2:02 am
by Norah
santeria was probably my favorite song for a few weeks in 1996

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 2:23 am
by Stardog Champion
Voted for "Helena". They went big and epic for that chorus, and I fell for it.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 2:30 am
by Jammer XCI
How the fuck is Sublime losing to that guyliner smeared incel band?

My Chemical Romance might be the worst band in this tournament not named Simple Plan or Good Charlotte.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 3:26 am
by chewm
I don't hate Santeria

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 3:27 am
by LoathedVermin72
I literally stopped the MCR song at 4 seconds. Easy Sublime vote

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 8:24 am
by ABNorman
I like both of these, but I went through a big Sublime phase so they get the nod.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 8:27 am
by Higgs
Vote for Lou Dog.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 12:20 pm
by mf
Sublime were one of my favorite bands in the nineties and i still love them to this day. Not even a guilty pleasure. Some of the stuff hasn't aged well but it makes for good nostalgia.

Easy vote for Bradley's mad guitar skills
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Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 12:56 pm
by Joesanity
Sorry Santeria, but too many lame white dudes in terrible cover bands have ruined you for me.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 2:52 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 3:13 pm
by Ello Sailor
Helena kicks ass. I hated MCR as a teen but I can appreciate what they were going for after the fact.

Santeria is cool, but it isn't pop-punk. Boo, Jorge. Boo.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 3:16 pm
by Jorge
We're being very loose with the terminology here. People really wanted "Santeria" in, so whatever.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 3:17 pm
by PHATJ
Ello Sailor wrote:Helena kicks ass. I hated MCR as a teen but I can appreciate what they were going for after the fact.

Santeria is cool, but it isn't pop-punk. Boo, Jorge. Boo.
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Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 3:18 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Santeria is awful. I used to like it when it came out, but it has not aged well for me at all.

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 5:53 pm
by mikejasond
I think Santeria is an amazing song but how is it pop punk? What? I voted against it because it's in the wrong genre tournament

Re: Helena vs. Santeria

Posted: Wed August 29, 2018 5:53 pm
by Jorge
theplatypus wrote:We're being very loose with the terminology here. People really wanted "Santeria" in, so whatever.