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33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 12:49 am
by stip
Sleight Of Hand (Chicago 2000-10-09) vs Brother (Melbourne 2009-11-20)



Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 12:51 am
by stip
Brother is a silly song, and I went in expecting nothing, but that was a shockingly good version.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 12:53 am
by VinylGuy
I really like Brother but SOH from the 2000 tour is amazing. All that Sonic Youth influence...

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 12:53 am
by stip
Eddie sounds so good. It's a shame this performance was wasted on this song.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 1:01 am
by stip
sleight of hand is a show stopper in the worst sense of the word, and has been all the times i've seen it. Granted I'm not a big booster of the song to begin with, but it's atmosphere is hard to replicate live and its pacing, while appropriate for a record, just grinds live momentum to a halt. So this is a (to me) surprisingly good live version, but I'm still blown away by that Brother

Vote for Brother

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 1:10 am
by PHATJ
Oh my good god, stip. :shake:

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 1:17 am
by stip
I saw you log on, and thought 'man, PhatJ would love this version of brother but it's up against SoH. He won't even listen'

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 1:26 am
by PHATJ
stip wrote:I saw you log on, and thought 'man, PhatJ would love this version of brother but it's up against SoH. He won't even listen'
You are probably right. But since you said that I’ll give it a listen in a bit.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 1:52 am
by PHATJ
PHATJ wrote:
stip wrote:I saw you log on, and thought 'man, PhatJ would love this version of brother but it's up against SoH. He won't even listen'
You are probably right. But since you said that I’ll give it a listen in a bit.
I listened. What did you specifically think I’d love about Brother?

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 2:21 am
by stip
that it's a great performance!

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 5:44 pm
by Monkey_Driven
stip wrote:sleight of hand is a show stopper in the worst sense of the word, and has been all the times i've seen it. Granted I'm not a big booster of the song to begin with, but it's atmosphere is hard to replicate live and its pacing, while appropriate for a record, just grinds live momentum to a halt. So this is a (to me) surprisingly good live version, but I'm still blown away by that Brother

Vote for Brother
Aren't we supposed to judge each of these matchups by the individual live performances, not how they fit into a setlist?

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 8:47 pm
by digster
This may be one of the easiest matches thus far, and the vote's for Sleight of Hand. I don't know if they ever replicated the feel of the studio version, but in 2000 they came close many times, including in this performance. The song has emotional heft, the excitement of them pushing against the walls of their prior sound and a hell of a performance. Brother, it's....I don't know, it's just there. It's not a terrible song, but I forget it the second it's over. It's not hard to see why they left it off Ten.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 9:08 pm
by doone
Monkey_Driven wrote:
stip wrote:sleight of hand is a show stopper in the worst sense of the word, and has been all the times i've seen it. Granted I'm not a big booster of the song to begin with, but it's atmosphere is hard to replicate live and its pacing, while appropriate for a record, just grinds live momentum to a halt. So this is a (to me) surprisingly good live version, but I'm still blown away by that Brother

Vote for Brother
Aren't we supposed to judge each of these matchups by the individual live performances, not how they fit into a setlist?
gotcha there stip
digster wrote: Brother, it's....I don't know, it's just there. It's not a terrible song, but I forget it the second it's over. It's not hard to see why they left it off Ten.
nicely put

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Wed February 27, 2019 9:13 pm
by JuanHamm
Those of you who voted for brother should be ashamed of yourselves.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Thu February 28, 2019 12:05 am
by PHATJ
JuanHamm wrote:Those of you who voted for brother should be ashamed of yourselves.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Thu February 28, 2019 12:44 am
by Kevin Davis
I actually really love this performance of "Brother," Eddie's singing during the bridge especially -- a good example of a great performance elevating a relatively average song. But it's no Chicago 2000 "Sleight of Hand."

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Thu February 28, 2019 1:03 am
by stip
doone wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
stip wrote:sleight of hand is a show stopper in the worst sense of the word, and has been all the times i've seen it. Granted I'm not a big booster of the song to begin with, but it's atmosphere is hard to replicate live and its pacing, while appropriate for a record, just grinds live momentum to a halt. So this is a (to me) surprisingly good live version, but I'm still blown away by that Brother

Vote for Brother
Aren't we supposed to judge each of these matchups by the individual live performances, not how they fit into a setlist?
gotcha there stip
that's what I'm doing. After my meta commentary about the song I pointed out that this performance exceeded my usual expectations

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Thu February 28, 2019 1:04 am
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:I actually really love this performance of "Brother," Eddie's singing during the bridge especially -- a good example of a great performance elevating a relatively average song.
I lack encyclopedic knowledge of the performances of this ear, but I think it's maybe the best post 2005 Eddie performance I can think of. It's a shame it's on this nothing song.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Thu February 28, 2019 1:08 am
by stip
let me clarify - rock/anthem style performance.

Re: 33. Sleight of Hand vs. Brother

Posted: Thu February 28, 2019 1:12 am
by Kevin Davis
It's definitely among my favorites from this 2009-2010 era, which was shaky overall but wasn't without its share of stellar individual performances.