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4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 6:07 pm
by tree_
What internet speed should I have in order to stream 4K UHD?

I live in the country and currently have pretty bad internet... just good enough to stream games and standard quality Netflix sometimes stops to load... I'm gonna research what else is available but I need to know what to look for. Thank you for your help.

- Jonathan

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 7:33 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 8:02 pm
by tree_
tragabigzanda wrote:Ours is a rural no-name broadband provider. Our original service was 5mbps download. We upgraded to 20mbps when we got the TCL TV and noticed a huge difference. BUT you'll need to learn how to setup your IP settings on the provider's page to give preference to games and movies over other data that other users may be simultaneously streaming.
How much does your rural internet cost? It's not satellite? All we have available is satellite options like ViaSat, which I hear nothing but bad things about, and this local tower that charges 100/mo for garbage..

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 8:26 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 8:38 pm
by tree_
tragabigzanda wrote:Ours is $90/mo, for just broadband. They’re generally dependable for good quality image except during big events like the Super Bowl or SOTU addresses.
What kind of broadband? Cable, fiber optic, satellite?

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 8:56 pm
by tragabigzanda
Naomi Klein wrote:"Clout is the values-free currency of the always-online age — both a substitute for hard cash as well as a conduit to it. Clout is a calculus not of what you do, but of how much bulk you-ness there is in the world. You get clout by playing the victim. You get clout by victimizing others. This is something that is understood by the left and the right. If influence sways, clout squats, taking up space for its own sake."

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 9:11 pm
by tree_
i don't get any other options but ViaSat.. it says it's $70 for 25mbps, which seems nice but I remember reading something about satellite internet that's misleading.. hold on ... hold please.. researching... yup here it is
•Poor latency or high ping rate. Latency and ping rate is essentially the same thing; they both test how long it takes to communicate between another computer, device, service or server in a network.

In the case of satellite internet, it’s how fast you send and receive files (the delay or how much lag there is). Since you have to send data to space, to your ISP and back again, satellite internet has poor latency, or a high ping rate. So satellite internet is not good for you if you’re a gamer or if you intend to use VoIP services.
hmm.. I wonder if this is worse than what I have now.. I wish there were some way for me to try it first

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Wed July 17, 2019 10:57 pm
by run2death
FYI, UHD almost always looks like crap when streaming. Skin tones are overly red and there additional weird artifacts. Particularly Netflix.

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Thu July 18, 2019 2:43 am
by tree_
run2death wrote:FYI, UHD almost always looks like crap when streaming. Skin tones are overly red and there additional weird artifacts. Particularly Netflix.
What kind of TV do you have?

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Thu July 18, 2019 2:55 am
by run2death
2 TCL UHDs and a Samsung UHD.

My sister's Sony UHD has the same skintone problem with Netflix

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Thu July 25, 2019 5:21 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Might be the HDR that is the problem (or the conversion from it), not the quality of the stream for skin tones.

I feel like 20-25 Mbps is the standard for passable 4k streaming. Any lower than that can cause some pretty serious buffering and artifacting.

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Thu July 25, 2019 5:29 pm
by run2death
I have a 300MB connection and my sister has a Gigabit connection and a $4,000 Sony set.

Netflix's UHD stream is almost universally decried as shitty.

Re: 4K UHD Internet Speed

Posted: Fri July 26, 2019 2:25 pm
by Monkey_Driven
run2death wrote:I have a 300MB connection and my sister has a Gigabit connection and a $4,000 Sony set.

Netflix's UHD stream is almost universally decried as shitty.
It's just compressed. I don't personally have issue with skin tones being too harsh in one way or another, but of course the quality doesn't compare to a physical copy.