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The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 5:12 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 7:32 pm
by Mickey
tragabigzanda wrote:Like most David Brooks think pieces, he gets a few big things wrong, but is generally thinking in the right direction.
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Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 7:40 pm
by simple schoolboy
Mickey wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Like most David Brooks think pieces, he gets a few big things wrong, but is generally thinking in the right direction.
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Shoulda gone with Tom Nichols, Mr. Expert. He's gonna totally be the head of a de-Trumpified GOP.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 10:09 pm
by digster
I think one of the big problems with this article is that in the first few paragraphs he brushes aside the thing that's almost certainly going to happen should Trump lose in November (that Trump will continue to remain in the public eye and be the de facto head of the GOP, and that he will remain exorbitantly popular among Republicans, even if the number of Republicans shrink).

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 10:24 pm
by elliseamos
The Lincoln Project seems to represent a few folks.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 10:29 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Fri August 07, 2020 10:32 pm
by simple schoolboy
elliseamos wrote:The Lincoln Project seems to represent a few folks.
The Lincoln project exists to provide income for politicos/ consultants that were frozen out of the Trump White House. Rick Wilson, who applied for a job with the Trump administration desperately needs the money to service his debts.

If wealthy democratic donors want these people to continue to be employed, thats their business. I think they will find they will get more ad buys per donated dollar with almost any other initiative, however.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 12:20 am
by BurtReynolds
People like David Brooks, Rick Wilson and Tom Nichols represent the future of the GOP only on their own minds, and in the dreams of democrats.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 12:29 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 12:42 am
by BurtReynolds
I don't really have an answer, but if I were to guess it would be Tucker Carlson and maybe Bannon and that ideology, something that these neverTrump types don't understand (mostly because they were not really conservatives.)

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 12:54 am
by Strat
We’re witnessing it.

They found their wheelhouse and they have molded their asses right into the couch cushion.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 1:08 am
by simple schoolboy
BurtReynolds wrote:I don't really have an answer, but if I were to guess it would be Tucker Carlson and maybe Bannon and that ideology, something that these neverTrump types don't understand (mostly because they were not really conservatives.)
So, Populist party? Try to win over some more populist oriented Saunders voters?

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 1:19 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 1:20 am
by BurtReynolds
simple schoolboy wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I don't really have an answer, but if I were to guess it would be Tucker Carlson and maybe Bannon and that ideology, something that these neverTrump types don't understand (mostly because they were not really conservatives.)
So, Populist party? Try to win over some more populist oriented Saunders voters?
I'd like to think so, but I think most hardcore Bernie bros are completely discouraged and on the sidelines right now.

I don't see why the populist trend would reverse. None of the problems have gone away or will go away under Biden, the ultimate "return to normalcy [runaway neoliberalism]" candidate.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 1:29 am
by elliseamos
simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:The Lincoln Project seems to represent a few folks.
The Lincoln project exists to provide income for politicos/ consultants that were frozen out of the Trump White House. Rick Wilson, who applied for a job with the Trump administration desperately needs the money to service his debts.

If wealthy democratic donors want these people to continue to be employed, thats their business. I think they will find they will get more ad buys per donated dollar with almost any other initiative, however.
Okay, but I don't see these types of people disappearing from politics and conceding their view of conservatism.

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 1:29 am
by 96583UP
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'Enjoy it now'

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 1:31 am
by BurtReynolds
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Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 9:23 am
by spike
BurtReynolds wrote:Image
:lol:

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 11:02 am
by 96583UP
strat looks good in that pic

Re: The Future of the GOP

Posted: Sat August 08, 2020 4:10 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
I'm grew up as a republican with libertarian leanings. I grew disillusioned with the GOP during the W years. Once it became it obvious that Ted Cruz was the only Republican who had a chance to beat Trump for the '16 nomination I was out. There's still a few Never Trumpers out there but they've been removed from office or relegated to the sidelines. The party is run and is based by deplorables now (to borrow a word). It's quite a void they've created for themselves but that's what happens when you go all in with a con artist.