Red Mosquito

A thread for discussing whether successful actors are actually good actors. What does it mean to be a good actor anyway? Is this person a good actor or are they just well cast? Are they one dimensional but really good at what they do or are they versatile and truly a great actor? Does it fucking matter?

John Travolta - Immensely successful. Is he a good actor or did he just have a few good roles? Grease, Welcome Back Kotter, Saturday Night Fever, Pulp Fiction, Face/Off. All successful movies/characters but....is travolta any fucking good? I'm not sure

Stallone? Rocky is a fantastic fucking movie. First one is absolutely great. But, no. I dont think he is.

Nic Cage? Oh baby, should have his own thread. Yes.

Phillip Seymour Hoffman - Absolutely mesmerizing

Jared Letto - Burt?

Jim Carrey - Starts off as a comedic clown. Dude always brought a relatable "heart" to his characters and certainly blossomed into some very memorable roles. He's picky. I think he has real talent

Sandler?

Heath Ledger - Certainly was just kind of starting to come into some truly incredible performances. Gone too soon. Would probably call him an incredible actor.

Who else?

Nic Cage does have his own thread

Im sorry. Ban me. Im done. Thanks.

Oh stop it.

I don't know what to think of Carey. When he's good he's fucking brilliant but when he's bad, oof

Strat wrote:Jared Leto - Burt?

He fucking sucks

I don't like most of Carrey's comedies. He's more consistent for me in dramatic roles.

Sandler is excellent in dramatic roles. A little hit or miss in comedies.

I really have zero opinion on Jared Leto.

I don't care much for Adrien Brody generally.

Nic Cage is.

I don't much care for Jeffrey Wright.

I miss Tom Hardy.

I miss Ed Norton.

I miss Phillip Seymour Hoffman.

Saorsie Ronan is my best friend.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:Jared Leto - Burt?

He fucking sucks

I would have thought you'd love him. Huh.

I think Brad Pitt is underrated as an actor. Sure he's overrated in his looks and popularity (I'd do him) but he is a top notch actor

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:Jared Leto - Burt?

He fucking sucks

I would have thought you'd love him. Huh.

He was alright in Dallas Buyers Club, but the character kinda fit him.

He tries to take over every scene. He overacts. He thinks interesting characters are a collection of wacky quirks. No depth. He feels like a cartoon character in every movie.

I hope his brief time being considered a serious actor is almost over.

Joaquin Phoenix fan here.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:I think Brad Pitt is underrated as an actor. Sure he's overrated in his looks and popularity (I'd do him) but he is a top notch actor

But is he always .....Brad Pitt? Is he just playing himself? Kind of always the same character, no? I love him but....IS HE A GOOD ACTOR?

BurtReynolds wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:Jared Leto - Burt?

He fucking sucks

I would have thought you'd love him. Huh.

He was alright in Dallas Buyers Club, but the character kinda fit him.

He tries to take over every scene. He overacts. He thinks interesting characters are a collection of wacky quirks. No depth. He feels like a cartoon character in every movie.

I hope his brief time being considered a serious actor is almost over.

I think i agree with you here! Geezes, well said.

Why are you yelling at me about Brad Pitt

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Why are you yelling at me about Brad Pitt

It kind of felt like a Catch Phrase for a TV Game Show we are on here.

Like, i didn't scream it, but i said it with some force then looked directly into the Camera before commercial break.

Pitt doesn't have a wide range, but I think he does more than play himself in every movie. He's alright.

BurtReynolds wrote:Pitt doesn't have a wide range, but I think he does more than play himself in every movie. He's alright.

I feel similarly, though i'd say he's better than alright.

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Saorsie Ronan is my best friend.

I need to re-visit Atonement because although she is currently one of my favorites, I really hated her back when Atonement was new and it was the only thing I had seen her in. I hated her in a way that, looking back, it's really weird for a grown man to hate a child. But now I don't know if I hated her back then because---

a) Atonement is just a terrible movie and it's not her fault (unlikely, Joe Wright is good)
b) I just hated children generally back then (I don't think this is it)
c) I just hated females generally back then (uh-oh, maybe)
d) I was just jealous of someone younger than me having so much success (sadly possible)
e) She was actually just really bad in that movie (unlikely, tbh)
f) She was actually really great in that movie at playing a detestable character and I was too dumb to separate the two (perhaps)

The Argonaut wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Saorsie Ronan is my best friend.

I need to re-visit Atonement because although she is currently one of my favorites, I really hated her back when Atonement was new and it was the only thing I had seen her in. I hated her in a way that, looking back, it's really weird for a grown man to hate a child. But now I don't know if I hated her back then because---

a) Atonement is just a terrible movie and it's not her fault (unlikely, Joe Wright is good)
b) I just hated children generally back then (I don't think this is it)
c) I just hated females generally back then (uh-oh, maybe)
d) I was just jealous of someone younger than me having so much success (sadly possible)
e) She was actually just really bad in that movie (unlikely, tbh)
f) She was actually really great in that movie at playing a detestable character and I was too dumb to separate the two (perhaps)

Yeah it was probably c or f. I saw that and didn't care much for it also. I know she plays the younger sister, but I remember zero about her being in it.

The first thing I remember taking notice of her in was The Grand Budapest Hotel.

And she is so charming in that!